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[0:45] <elfgoh> dqminh: Gwayne was saying earlier today that 15th will be a good day
[0:45] <elfgoh> book the labs i think from 12 -7pm?
[0:46] <elfgoh> he can conduct from 1-6pm
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[0:47] <dqminh> ok
[0:47] <dqminh> i will contact comp club and soc
[0:47] <elfgoh> ok.
[0:48] <dqminh> do we have contacts at Comp Center ?
[0:48] <elfgoh> yea we do
[0:48] <elfgoh> ruiwen has 2 contacts
[0:48] <elfgoh> Shing Gene and Guan Xin
[0:48] <elfgoh> I have got one.
[0:49] <dqminh> should we book Comp Center or SoC's lab ?
[0:50] <elfgoh> What's the difference besides location?
[0:53] <dqminh> i'm not sure, never went to Comp Center before
[0:53] <dqminh> after 3 years here :"P
[0:56] <dqminh> elfgoh, the workshop is part of Interopt meetup right ?
[0:57] <elfgoh> hmmm?
[0:57] <elfgoh> is it?
[0:57] <dqminh> hehe i dont know. Anw its fine. i will not include that
[0:58] <dqminh> do you know how many comps Gwayne will need ?
[1:00] <elfgoh> dqminh: Well i think one OS lab will be enough lol
[1:01] <elfgoh> I guess around 30 pcs?
[1:01] <dqminh> i think OS lab machine quite slow. I will try to book either OS lab or PL6
[1:01] <dqminh> PL6 is faster but it has only 20+ comps
[1:01] <elfgoh> dqminh: do you happen to know OS lecturer?
[1:02] <elfgoh> I think he is Adrian Yap?
[1:02] <dqminh> Roland Yap
[1:02] <elfgoh> oops yea
[1:02] <elfgoh> Roland
[1:02] <elfgoh> Do you know him well?
[1:02] <dqminh> not really well :D
[1:02] <dqminh> i doubt that he can remember who I am :p
[1:02] <elfgoh> Because I was wondering if you should approach him 1st
[1:03] <elfgoh> Well linuxNUS used to help out in his OS module forums
[1:03] <elfgoh> He should be quite interested in this
[1:03] <dqminh> btw he's on vacation I think
[1:03] <elfgoh> The machines need to be able to boot pxe
[1:03] <elfgoh> according to gwayne
[1:03] <dqminh> my friend who is his FYP student told me yesterday
[1:03] <elfgoh> and also need to lock the network off
[1:04] <elfgoh> because pxe works with its own dhcp
[1:04] <elfgoh> oh
[1:04] <dqminh> yah , I included them in the request
[1:04] <elfgoh> until when?
[1:04] <dqminh> that I dont know
[1:05] <elfgoh> dqminh: I think you should attempt to book 2 days
[1:05] <elfgoh> one for our own testing and setup
[1:05] <dqminh> can we request help from prof. Tan ?
[1:05] <elfgoh> and another for the event
[1:05] <elfgoh> dqminh: yes we can
[1:06] <elfgoh> what do you think of testing day?
[1:06] <dqminh> 8th for testing ?
[1:06] <dqminh> a bit too rush i think
[1:07] <elfgoh> dqminh: hmmm it will be a short testing session i think
[1:07] <elfgoh> just to make sure that we get things setup the way Gwayne needs them to be
[1:07] <dqminh> yah, but if we need to lock network, we need helps from soc staffs too
[1:08] <elfgoh> yea hence the need to book the lab
[1:08] <elfgoh> how about I ping Gwayne to see his availability for testing?
[1:09] <dqminh> yah
[1:09] <dqminh> can you ask about alternative date also
[1:09] <dqminh> in case we cant get the lab on time
[1:15] <elfgoh> ah i already sent the mail
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[10:26] <elfgoh_> hmm my morning peace has been destroyed by a brawling toodler
[10:29] <ruiwen> a brawling toddler eh? fierce =P on the train?
[10:31] <elfgoh_> ruiwen: very fierce indeed
[10:32] <elfgoh_> aliens will think she is the empress of the world
[10:36] <triplez> ooo
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[11:22] <elfgoh> !twitter Gnote was used as FUD in the anti-mono war: http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2009/07/27/680-why-i-did-write-gnote
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[11:46] <hyperair> whose blog is that?
[11:48] <hyperair> i thought gnote came from robert millan
[11:48] <hyperair> or wait, maybe he was just the packager
[11:54] <triplez> hee
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[12:05] <cyberjames> mooooo
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[12:27] <eugene> patrickh1ller: not really. read my twitter i guess
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[20:39] <jamestyj> moin
[20:41] <hyperair> niom
[21:36] <cyberjames> how good HTC Dream is?
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[21:42] <eugene> anyone bought magic?
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[22:09] <elfgoh> cyberjames: battery life is a slight problem for htc dream
[22:09] <elfgoh> eugene: think ziyong's gf has magic
[22:09] <elfgoh> and ruiwen too
[22:11] <eugene> elfgoh: how is it...
[22:11] <elfgoh> eugene: ruiwen is happy without the keypad, but I can't imagine living without one
[22:12] <elfgoh> better battery life too
[22:14] <eugene> elfgoh: not cheap... especially after buying that iphone 3g..
[22:20] <elfgoh> eugene: you can wait a while
[22:20] <elfgoh> think prices might drop when more android phones get released
[22:20] <eugene> elfgoh: think i will do that
[22:36] <cyberjames> elfgoh: really
[22:37] <elfgoh> cyberjames: expect to charge it once everyday or so
[22:37] <cyberjames> i see
[22:38] * cyberjames is searching another good one lol
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[22:56] <ziyong> ?
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[23:36] <eugene> patrickh1ller: is there a way to make screen -x reread .screenrc?
[23:36] <patrickh1ller> ctrl-a : source ~/.screenrc
[23:37] <patrickh1ller> you need it automatically?
[23:38] <eugene> patrickh1ller: ctrl-a?
[23:38] <patrickh1ller> yeah, in screen, just CTRL-a : to get the screen prompt
[23:38] <patrickh1ller> then source the config file
[23:38] <eugene> patrickh1ller: ok. it didn't add the hardstatus line
[23:38] <patrickh1ller> hmm
[23:38] <patrickh1ller> should be there.
[23:38] <eugene> patrickh1ller: when i start a new screen session, it's there. but not in my existing screen session.
[23:39] <patrickh1ller> do a ctrl-a ctrl-a on screen -x startup
[23:39] <patrickh1ller> i see that bug
[23:39] <eugene> ctrl-a ctrl-a goes to win 0
[23:39] <patrickh1ller> if you have hardstatus set, it doesn't init on screen -x
[23:39] <eugene> actually it goes to the next win
[23:39] <eugene> i see
[23:39] <patrickh1ller> yup
[23:40] <patrickh1ller> hardstatus now visible?
[23:40] <eugene> nope
[23:40] <patrickh1ller> hmm
[23:40] <patrickh1ller> but in the main screen session it's visible?
[23:40] <eugene> oh source ~/.screenrc says file not found
[23:40] <patrickh1ller> source /home/teo/.screenrc
[23:41] <patrickh1ller> tilde expansion foobar
[23:41] <eugene> ok i specified the full path and it worked now
[23:41] <patrickh1ller> cool
[23:41] <eugene> thanks
[23:41] <patrickh1ller> np
[23:41] <eugene> nice hardstatus
[23:41] <patrickh1ller> super useful
[23:42] <patrickh1ller> especially wiht dynamic hinting from bash
[23:42] <eugene> nod
[23:43] <eugene> patrickh1ller: thanks. trying out other tricks in your slide
[23:45] <patrickh1ller> yeah, hard to believe I used to drop screen on install ( well, along with every setuid/setgid program that I didn't explicitly need)
[23:45] <eugene> gee
[23:45] <eugene> so if i have a hardstatus already, source ~/.screenrc makes me have tw ohardstatus
[23:45] <patrickh1ller> hmm
[23:46] <patrickh1ller> sure you're not nested in screens?
[23:46] <eugene> i'm not
[23:46] <eugene> so when i switch window, it will display it on two hardstatus at the same time
[23:46] <patrickh1ller> ah
[23:46] <patrickh1ller> you have hardstatus and ... enabled
[23:46] <patrickh1ller> looking it up
[23:47] <patrickh1ller> caption
[23:47] <patrickh1ller> try : caption splitonly
[23:48] <eugene> maybe i need to do headstatus off or someting
[23:48] <eugene> hmm splitonly. let me try
[23:48] <eugene> caption splitonly removed my second hardstatus
[23:48] <patrickh1ller> woohoo
[23:48] <eugene> now i am left with one, the original one :)
[23:48] <eugene> but i wanted the second one :)
[23:49] <patrickh1ller> hahaha
[23:49] <patrickh1ller> ok, so you're tweakingyour caption line
[23:49] <eugene> yup. interesting. got to play with it a bit
[23:49] <patrickh1ller> cool
[23:50] <eugene> patrickh1ller: you were asking about local security news?
[23:51] <patrickh1ller> yeah, i was surprised i missed hearing about syscan
[23:51] <eugene> patrickh1ller: you didn't miss much actually.
[23:51] <patrickh1ller> otehr than a chance to pay $1000
[23:52] <patrickh1ller> not all the cool stuff has to happen at the con
[23:52] <eugene> patrickh1ller: you probably read that I attended the conf. there are sometalks that are quite interesting. i learnt more by interacting with the presenters.
[23:53] <patrickh1ller> ah
[23:53] <eugene> patrickh1ller: it was more like an old friends gathering
[23:53] <eugene> patrickh1ller: you also missed sans singapore
[23:53] <patrickh1ller> actually on that point i was remiss, I just noted that charlie posted yet another 0day iphone hack
[23:53] <patrickh1ller> yeah.
[23:54] <patrickh1ller> and saw it was in SG, and basically flipped out because I didn't know about it
[23:54] <eugene> patrickh1ller: charlie spoke about his sms attack on the iphone because the sms application is actually running as root (not sandboxed like the other apps)
[23:54] <eugene> patrickh1ller: it was mostly a preview, he did not demonstrate anything (because he wanted to leave it to blackhat)
[23:54] <patrickh1ller> ah
[23:54] <eugene> patrickh1ller: but still, very interesting.
[23:55] <patrickh1ller> yeah, he demo'd hte code, right (unless I misread te news)
[23:55] <eugene> patrickh1ller: he did not demo the code.
[23:55] <eugene> patrickh1ller: hmm actually he demoed some things
[23:56] <patrickh1ller> not the sms remote root, though?
[23:56] <eugene> patrickh1ller: not the sms bug. he mentioned something about apple fixing the issue and he wasn't supposed to talk about it.
[23:56] <patrickh1ller> ;)
[23:56] <eugene> patrickh1ller: it was for another bug i can't recall offhand.
[23:58] <eugene> ok, time to sleep. got to go to office tomorrow.
[23:58] <eugene> patrickh1ller: ttyl.
[23:58] <patrickh1ller> k
[23:58] <eugene> hmm
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[23:59] <eugene> patrickh1ller: some photos for you
[23:59] <eugene> patrickh1ller: http://twitpic.com/9057g
[23:59] <eugene> http://twitpic.com/91cbp
[23:59] <eugene> http://twitpic.com/943wt
[23:59] <eugene> enjoy :)
[23:59] <patrickh1ller> fun stuff
[23:59] <patrickh1ller> ;)
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