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[0:58] <elfgoh> hohoho
[0:58] <elfgoh> UOB website might be in the process of being DOS
[0:59] <elfgoh> *DDOS
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[10:50] <triplez> good morning
[10:51] <cyberjames> morning
[10:53] <triplez> hmmm
[10:53] <triplez> where's everyone
[10:56] <ziyong> ?
[10:56] <ziyong> working lor
[10:59] <cyberjames> triplez: I think they are still sleeping
[10:59] <triplez> why aren't you not? :P
[10:59] <triplez> ziyong is always working lol
[11:00] <cyberjames> Im working too lol
[11:00] <cyberjames> triplez: I slept in the proper time :P
[11:01] <triplez> lol
[11:05] <ziyong> lol
[11:05] <ziyong> come office ah
[11:05] <ziyong> haha
[11:05] <ziyong> :D
[11:05] <ziyong> nice day to work
[11:05] <ziyong> can blast music
[11:05] <ziyong> got air con
[11:05] <ziyong> haha
[11:08] <triplez> lol
[11:08] <triplez> you asking me to go to your office?
[11:09] <triplez> at home i have aircon also... :P
[11:10] <ziyong> free leh
[11:10] <ziyong> hah
[11:10] <ziyong> and power also
[11:15] <cyberjames> lets go
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[11:18] <triplez> morning elfgoh
[11:18] <elfgoh> hello triplez
[11:19] * triplez slobbers on elfgoh
[11:19] <elfgoh> ~.~
[11:19] <elfgoh> So i guess the interview was great?
[11:19] <triplez> i feel so sad that stupid sys admins don't WANT to test win 7
[11:20] <triplez> still caught up with the whole win xp crap
[11:20] <triplez> yap... it's great
[11:20] <triplez> you wanna hear the mp3? ruiwen has it for fixing but i have the original raw copy
[11:21] <elfgoh> triplez: it's ok, i will wait for the final :)
[11:21] <elfgoh> My network isn't the fastest. It's gonna be a pain to transfer to me anyway
[11:23] <ziyong> lol
[11:23] <triplez> hee... it's only 60mb
[11:24] <ziyong> weak
[11:24] <triplez> about 45 mins long i think
[11:24] <triplez> we got a verbal agreement to do a podcast with daniel ng
[11:24] <triplez> and we might be able to get a minister to do a podcast with linuxnus...
[11:25] <ziyong> LOL
[11:25] <ziyong> gogogo
[11:25] <ziyong> hmm, which minister will be interested....
[11:25] <ziyong> any idea?
[11:34] * elfgoh is having breakfast
[11:35] <triplez> whereeeee?
[11:35] <triplez> what breakfast
[11:35] <triplez> i'm hungryyyyy
[11:44] <ziyong> come nus
[11:44] <ziyong> canteen got open
[11:44] <ziyong> haha
[11:44] * ziyong had pangang
[11:44] <elfgoh> triplez: home made la
[11:44] <triplez> wah even better... make for me
[11:44] <ziyong> lol
[11:45] <elfgoh> triplez: at tampines lor
[11:45] <elfgoh> the other end of Singapore
[11:46] <triplez> hee... if you willing to make for me i'm willing to go tampines... :P
[11:46] <elfgoh> riiiiiiggghhhttt
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[14:24] <ruiwen> @podcasters: listening to the recorded podcast.. only Jim's voice is clear =/
[15:16] <triplez> lol
[15:17] <triplez> isn't THAT the point?
[15:20] <ruiwen> triplez: haha well we need to hear what questions were asked too.. unless you feel like re-recording all the questions =P
[15:20] <triplez> hmm you can't hear the questions?
[15:21] <ruiwen> triplez: can.. but quite soft.. but will try to boost the volume for the question segments
[15:22] <triplez> hmm... ok... well we can re record the questions...?
[15:24] <ruiwen> well will try to get the volume up on the questions first i guess
[15:27] <triplez> ok
[15:27] <triplez> ;)
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[16:58] <jamesty1> moin
[17:02] <triplez> moin
[17:05] <ziyong> any expert in api development
[17:05] <ziyong> library
[17:05] <ziyong> ?
[17:06] <elfgoh> ziyong: maybe triplez
[17:07] <triplez> lol!!
[17:07] <triplez> yes maybe triplez
[17:07] <elfgoh> triplez: should i have said "Definitely triplez " instead? ;)
[17:08] <triplez> lol
[17:09] <triplez> i'm bored
[17:09] <elfgoh> triplez: play HoN?
[17:09] <triplez> haven't get the key yet
[17:10] <triplez> they send out already?
[17:10] <elfgoh> well i can pass you mine 1st
[17:10] <elfgoh> I got one
[17:10] <elfgoh> but yet to have time to try
[17:10] <elfgoh> You want it?
[17:10] <triplez> only runs on linux right?
[17:10] <elfgoh> triplez: hmmmm
[17:10] <elfgoh> not sure man
[17:10] <triplez> wonder if mac can use
[17:10] <elfgoh> but I thought that you "want to get acquainted with other technologies" :o
[17:11] <elfgoh> cannot use then just leave it
[17:11] <elfgoh> i can still use the key then'
[17:11] <triplez> HAHHAHAH
[17:11] <triplez> must find a machine to install linux then
[17:11] <triplez> did they say which distro works well?
[17:11] <elfgoh> hmmm no.... i think you have to download a client
[17:12] <elfgoh> then play using a client
[17:12] <elfgoh> you can try without Linux 1st.
[17:12] <elfgoh> I believe all OS should work
[17:12] <triplez> hmm ok
[17:12] <triplez> do you have the instructions?
[17:15] <jamesty1> what is HoN?
[17:15] <jamesty1> try openSUSE!
[17:16] <elfgoh> triplez: I think this is the place to start: http://www.beta.heroesofnewerth.com/
[17:16] <elfgoh> and pmed you my beta key
[17:17] <elfgoh> jamesty1: it's touted to be the dota killer
[17:17] <jamesty1> oh?
[17:17] <jamesty1> hrm
[17:18] <jamesty1> it's kind of weird that it throws the big login in my face
[17:18] <jamesty1> can't i get more info about the game w/o an account?
[17:18] <jamesty1> ;)
[17:19] <elfgoh> jamesty1: currently game is still in close beta
[17:19] <elfgoh> BUt they occasionally give out the beta keys
[17:20] <elfgoh> Sorry but i gave triplez my key
[17:20] <triplez> :P
[17:20] <elfgoh> jamesty1: but they will give out more keys soon i think. Just sign up as a fan at http://www.facebook.com/posted.php?id=618173122&share_id=109788582373&ref=nf#/heroesofnewerth?ref=ts
[17:23] <jamesty1> icic
[17:23] <jamesty1> nah it's okay
[17:23] <jamesty1> i'm not much of a gamer
[17:24] <elfgoh> jamesty1: but if you play it too... and so does triplez .... you get a chance to whoop his ass!
[17:24] <triplez> yes.. whoop my ass
[17:24] <triplez> i think that's the only reason why elfgoh and everyone in linuxnus wants to join
[17:24] <jamesty1> haha
[17:25] <triplez> we should name that gaming night "whooping triplez's ass"
[17:25] <elfgoh> hehe
[17:26] <elfgoh> "Ladies and Gentlemen, for our games night we have an arrogant rascal who is an MVP, claiming that Linux peeps can't game for nuts/ So let's get together and farm him real good in HoN!"
[17:26] <triplez> LOL
[17:26] <triplez> exactly
[17:26] * elfgoh hides
[17:26] <triplez> that sounds like a great sell!
[17:31] * jmarki wonders why is an arrogant mvp in a linux channel, promoting {mac,linux}....
[17:32] * jmarki hides
[17:32] <jmarki> off to breakfast/lunch/dinner....
[17:35] * triplez wonders why too
[17:35] * triplez thinks he's a little off the rockers
[17:35] <triplez> we should shoot him down like the rabid dog he is
[17:40] <ziyong> ??
[17:40] <ziyong> come more man.......
[17:40] <triplez> ??
[17:41] <ziyong> ???
[17:41] * ziyong needs to get off work
[17:41] <ziyong> ahh!
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[17:44] <ziyong> other than triplez (i know he is an expert), any other experts in api dev? :p
[17:45] <ruiwen> what do you mean by api dev?
[17:45] <ziyong> my products need api lib
[17:45] <ziyong> that dev implement
[17:45] <ziyong> so need to dev the api
[17:45] <ziyong> the rest api is already in the works
[17:46] <ruiwen> ah so basically implementing the backend to the interface?
[17:46] <ziyong> u can say so :)
[17:46] <ziyong> like facebook api
[17:46] <ziyong> flickr api
[17:47] <ziyong> their libraries for android, iphone, symbian etc
[17:47] <triplez> ruiwen interested? :P
[17:47] <ziyong> so u import the .jar file
[17:47] <ziyong> and developers can call check(), buy()
[17:47] <ziyong> etc
[17:47] <ziyong> things like that
[17:47] <ziyong> so they do not need to key in the whole json string, or httprequest string
[17:47] <ziyong> and all the internal works
[17:48] <ziyong> i got a java genius working on the android part already.... but i am looking for a friend
[17:48] <ziyong> so 2 ppl work together
[17:48] <ziyong> can iron out problems together
[17:48] <ziyong> pair development
[17:48] <ziyong> :p
[17:49] <ruiwen> heh indeed
[17:49] <ruiwen> you can ping the linuxnus mailing to see if there's anyone interested there though
[17:49] <ziyong> at least get the pseudocode and framework right :)
[17:50] <triplez> lol
[17:50] <ruiwen> heh well you wouldn't need experts if you just wanted pseudocode though =p
[17:51] <triplez> ruiwen: remember what you told me? code first think later?
[17:51] <ziyong> need experts leh
[17:51] <ruiwen> triplez: heh if ziyong wants programmers like that i know where he can find them =P
[17:51] <ziyong> cannot like that
[17:51] <triplez> hahahahah
[17:51] <ziyong> think first code later
[17:51] <ziyong> pseudocode important
[17:51] <triplez> i'm still trying my best to wrap my head how do people code first and think later
[17:52] <ziyong> why code first
[17:52] <triplez> i simply can't understand how that works
[17:52] <ruiwen> triplez: welcome to the club =P
[17:52] <triplez> maybe it's an interesting technique
[17:52] <triplez> maybe it creates code that works?
[17:52] <ziyong> we spend 2 days working out the whole specs
[17:52] <ziyong> day 1 orientation specs
[17:52] <ziyong> by day 2 change
[17:52] <ziyong> DB layout change
[17:52] <ziyong> lol
[17:53] <ziyong> we spend like the whole afternoon (whole team) and night (with my lead) talking about it
[17:53] <ziyong> bleah
[17:53] <triplez> db layout change?
[17:53] <ziyong> ya
[17:53] <ziyong> the docu i send u
[17:53] <ziyong> change already
[17:53] <ziyong> in some ways
[17:53] <triplez> HAHAHHAHAHA
[17:53] <triplez> for the better?
[17:53] <ziyong> how we arrange product
[17:53] <ziyong> ya
[17:53] <ziyong> becoz there was some misunderstanding here and there
[17:54] <ziyong> and use case issur
[17:54] <ziyong> issue
[17:54] <triplez> i see... :P
[17:54] <ziyong> have to be right :P
[17:54] <triplez> there's always communication problems
[17:54] <ziyong> as always
[17:54] <ziyong> :D
[17:54] <ziyong> but was fun
[17:54] <ziyong> to work out everything
[17:54] <triplez> that's great
[17:54] <triplez> compact framework 3.5?
[17:54] <ziyong> we relook at the whole app flow
[17:54] <ziyong> :D
[17:54] <ziyong> hmm?
[17:54] <ziyong> simi lai
[17:54] <ziyong> lol
[17:55] <ziyong> no M$
[17:55] <ziyong> :D
[17:55] <jamesty1> ziyong: would love to help if i had the time
[17:55] <triplez> sweet mother of jesus... the coding for winmo looks like C++ coding
[17:55] <ziyong> thanks jamesty for the thought :)
[17:56] <ziyong> lol.... u should have come for ijamming yesterda
[17:56] <ziyong> chris chin presented on 65 again
[17:56] <ziyong> lol
[17:56] <ziyong> the same slides as monday
[17:56] <ziyong> and thurs
[17:56] <triplez> 6.5?
[17:56] <jamesty1> ziyong: would love to see your api drafts / specs though
[17:56] <triplez> i see
[17:56] <ziyong> ya
[17:56] <triplez> is it out yet?
[17:56] <ziyong> not yet
[17:56] <ziyong> about market place
[17:56] <triplez> are you gonna build for 6.5 or 6.1?
[17:57] <jamesty1> marketplace?
[17:57] <jamesty1> like the apple app store?
[17:57] <ziyong> jamesty: cannot unless u sell ur life to my company :p
[17:57] <ziyong> hahah
[17:57] <jamesty1> ziyong: haha
[17:57] <ziyong> u know when chris ask, "how many of you have win mo phone"
[17:57] <triplez> jamesty1: i already signed the life paper... so i get every info from him
[17:57] <triplez> lol
[17:57] <jamesty1> ziyong: what's your company again?
[17:57] <ziyong> the crowd went: nooooooooooooooo
[17:57] <jamesty1> triplez: oh? you're working for ziyong now?
[17:57] <triplez> no... lol
[17:58] <triplez> not yet... hahahha
[17:58] <jamesty1> oh so just NDA?
[17:58] <triplez> yah
[17:58] <ziyong> nb...
[17:58] <ziyong> should i sleep over in office
[17:58] <ziyong> for the 3rd day
[17:58] <ziyong> lol
[17:58] <ziyong> cannot finishWQ!!!@#!!@#
[17:58] <ziyong> haha
[17:58] <triplez> what are you doing...
[17:59] <triplez> you ah...
[17:59] <ziyong> client presentation
[17:59] <ziyong> next week
[17:59] <ziyong> got a small big fish
[17:59] <ziyong> a small "big fish"
[17:59] <triplez> presentation difficult to do meh?
[17:59] <ziyong> yes!
[17:59] <ziyong> sales presentation
[17:59] <ziyong> must think very hard
[17:59] <triplez> okay
[17:59] <ziyong> thats why sales ppl earn alot of money :(
[17:59] <triplez> you know what your office lacks?
[18:00] <ziyong> sales is really an art
[18:00] <ziyong> what?
[18:00] <ziyong> babes?
[18:00] <triplez> a whiteboard wall...
[18:00] <ziyong> yes
[18:00] <ziyong> thats true
[18:00] <ziyong> i wanted to buy
[18:00] <triplez> buy those whiteboard paint...
[18:00] <ziyong> popular quoted me
[18:00] <triplez> paint your wall
[18:00] <ziyong> $149
[18:00] <ziyong> LOL
[18:00] <triplez> or those blackboard paint
[18:00] <triplez> then you just need to buy chalk
[18:00] <ziyong> i called up popular, they say 149..... darn
[18:00] <ziyong> chalk very smoky
[18:00] <ziyong> in aircon room
[18:00] <ziyong> not good
[18:01] <ziyong> going to buy one sooon
[18:01] <ziyong> what u say is true
[18:01] <ziyong> :D
[18:01] <ziyong> i need it
[18:01] <ziyong> then can draw one big simily there
[18:01] <triplez> everyone needs it...
[18:01] <ziyong> and put how many more months until we die!
[18:01] <ziyong> :p
[18:01] <ziyong> kidding
[18:01] <ziyong> :D
[18:02] <triplez> if i get my own office first thing i'll do is paint all the walls so that people can write and erase on them
[18:02] <jamesty1> $149 is not too bad mah
[18:02] <jamesty1> i think i am going to buy a big white board for my apartment
[18:02] <jamesty1> lol
[18:02] <jamesty1> trying to figure out where to put it
[18:03] <jamesty1> and how to get it back
[18:03] <ziyong> 149 for A1 side
[18:03] <ziyong> size
[18:03] <ziyong> can ah?:
[18:04] <ziyong> i done caculation
[18:04] <jamesty1> does ikea have any?
[18:04] <ziyong> buy 2 x small one is cheaper
[18:04] <jamesty1> might be cheaper?
[18:04] <ziyong> havent check ikea yet
[18:04] <jamesty1> yeah do a whiteboard all
[18:04] <ziyong> but i shuld :p
[18:04] <ziyong> so far only check afew places
[18:04] <jamesty1> like in the NUS tutorial room
[18:04] <ziyong> haha
[18:04] <jamesty1> the whole wall is a whiteboard
[18:04] <ziyong> didnt occur to me ikea got sell
[18:04] <ziyong> :D
[18:04] <jamesty1> i dunno about sg ikea
[18:04] <jamesty1> but they sell it here
[18:05] <jamesty1> but yeah just call them n ask
[18:05] <triplez> oooo
[18:05] <triplez> but ikea would be ex no?
[18:05] <ziyong> next week i should get my grant replyt
[18:05] <ziyong> should do so
[18:05] <ziyong> hehe
[18:05] <ziyong> :D
[18:07] <triplez> so question ziyong... 6.1 or 6.5?
[18:07] <triplez> or 5?
[18:07] <ziyong> 6.1
[18:07] <ziyong> oh shit...
[18:07] <ziyong> thats why i hate win mo
[18:07] <ziyong> lol
[18:07] <ziyong> ya 6.1
[18:08] <ziyong> :D
[18:08] <triplez> yes... me too
[18:08] <ziyong> is it the same, 6.1 and 6.5 lib?
[18:08] <jamesty1> triplez: well the point is to find out how much it costs and just get the best deal
[18:08] <ziyong> i hope they will be man..
[18:09] <triplez> standard or professional?
[18:09] <ziyong> pro
[18:09] <triplez> no... different
[18:09] <ziyong> wtf....
[18:10] <triplez> 6.5 has gesture touch libs
[18:10] <ziyong> LJ MS!
[18:10] <ziyong> lol
[18:10] <triplez> i think it might be the same
[18:10] <ziyong> ok
[18:10] <ziyong> 6.1 p first
[18:10] <ziyong> oh
[18:10] <ziyong> my laptop is T61p
[18:10] <ziyong> hahaj
[18:11] <triplez> lol
[18:11] <triplez> scary.... winmo is so half baked
[18:13] <triplez> i think it should be the same libs.... except some extra new libs
[18:13] <ziyong> lol
[18:13] <ziyong> lol @engadget comment
[18:13] <ziyong> how will you improve iphone 3gs post
[18:13] <ziyong> comment by marksmen: Add a chin...
[18:13] <triplez> LOL
[18:14] <ziyong> and SILVERLIGHT SUPPORT
[18:14] <ziyong> ;p;
[18:14] <ziyong> lol
[18:14] <ziyong> That and silverlight. I know silverlight isn't big yet, but if they're going to do flash, why not silverlight?
[18:14] <ziyong> +1 for Silverlight!
[18:14] <ziyong> haha
[18:14] <ziyong> those 2 are comments :p
[18:16] <triplez> hahahaha
[18:21] <ziyong> ciao guys
[18:21] <ziyong> going home
[18:21] <ziyong> finally
[18:21] <ziyong> ahahah
[18:21] <ziyong> for dinner
[18:21] <ziyong> bbl
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[22:24] <ziyong> ah back
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[23:55] <icedwater> Incidentally, how does one get Gnome-do to sit on a panel?
[23:56] <icedwater> I have to Alt-F2 and run Gnome-Do or use a launcher ... seems extraneous
[23:56] <ruiwen> it should be in the preferences to start on login
[23:56] <icedwater> Heh, assuming I actually see any preferences.
[23:56] <ruiwen> and you can choose the Docky theme to have it appear as a launcher bar
[23:57] <ruiwen> does it appear in your panel?
[23:57] * icedwater dives into gconf.
[23:57] <icedwater> Nope, I only get a plugins option, which leads me to an empty folder.
[23:57] <ruiwen> ah.
[23:57] <ruiwen> do you have gnome-do plugins?
[23:57] <ruiwen> and only version 0.8 and above has Docky i think
[23:58] <icedwater> OK, I have Super<space> as the hotkey combination for Gnome-Do, which makes a bit more sense.
[23:58] <icedwater> But there doesn't seem to be any other sort of configuration setting.
[23:59] <ruiwen> you're looking at it in gconf?
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