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[0:38] <patrickhaller> hey elfgoh: got a sec? can you try http://www.haller.ws/projects/sg-interconnectivity/routing-data-capture.sh
[0:38] <patrickhaller> i had to use awk's network connection facility
[0:38] <patrickhaller> no netcat and no /dev/tcp by default
[0:38] <patrickhaller> seems like debian wants you to learn fun little languages
[0:39] <patrickhaller> awk = perl 0.01 ;)
[0:39] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: seems to be running fine :)
[0:39] <patrickhaller> yeah, it's at teh end, the upload will either bomb or not :(...
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[0:58] <elfgoh> gosh the script's taking longer than i expected
[0:58] <dqminh> hmm ok , completed my demo program for codeandroid
[0:59] <patrickhaller> elfgoh: yah, it's tracerouting to every major netblock in SG ;) all ~400 of them
[1:00] <patrickhaller> it goes to the 0 address (first address in the range), so only the core-ish routers should be involved
[1:00] <patrickhaller> i could have parallelized it
[1:01] <dqminh> is there any way to make a Java program runs infinite loop without causing stackoverflow error ?
[1:01] <patrickhaller> but that might have DOS'd people's NAT routers at home
[1:01] <patrickhaller> dqminh: stackoverflow = infinite recursion not loop, right?
[1:02] <dqminh> ah yes, infinite recursion
[1:02] <patrickhaller> answer = no
[1:02] <dqminh> sadly expected
[1:02] <dqminh> i'm doing a brute-force hamming distance program
[1:02] <patrickhaller> get a language that supports tail optimization ;)
[1:02] <patrickhaller> maybe scala?
[1:02] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: heh ok. well i am at 203.123.0.0 now
[1:02] <patrickhaller> coo
[1:04] <dqminh> i have to create a workaround, possibly remember every combinations i made
[1:04] <dqminh> not so smart it seems
[1:04] <dqminh> anyone got suggestions ?
[1:04] <dqminh> first time i'm doing this :p
[1:05] <patrickhaller> well, like towers of hanoi, write recursively first, and then convert it to iterative
[1:05] <patrickhaller> good exercise
[1:06] <dqminh> let me try
[1:06] <dqminh> have not touched algorithms for a long time
[1:08] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: moment of truth... uploading results ;)
[1:08] <patrickhaller> w000!!!!!
[1:08] <patrickhaller> i haz results!
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[1:11] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: hmmm is the uploading stalling at your end?
[1:12] <elfgoh> at my end it is still running "uploading results"
[1:12] <patrickhaller> hmm.
[1:12] <patrickhaller> i figure that i need to loop on the upload
[1:12] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: and a look at http://www.haller.ws/projects/sg-interconnectivity/routing-data-capture.sh seems to indicate incomplete data
[1:12] <patrickhaller> yeah, it has 16K
[1:13] <patrickhaller> which seems awfulllly buffer-fishy to me
[1:13] <patrickhaller> ;)
[1:13] <patrickhaller> added arrays to awk now w0000
[1:14] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: ok, let me know again when the script is good to go
[1:18] <patrickhaller> thx, hacking...
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[1:27] <patrickh1ller> elfgoh: ok, can you re get http://www.haller.ws/projects/sg-interconnectivity/routing-data-capture.sh
[1:28] <patrickh1ller> the for (x in array) is a little counter-modern-language-intuitive
[1:28] <patrickh1ller> that x is the index, not the value
[1:28] <patrickh1ller> sheesh
[1:30] <elfgoh> patrickh1ller: this tmp variable is a path on my system right?
[1:30] <patrickh1ller> eeps
[1:30] <patrickh1ller> need to remove.
[1:31] <patrickh1ller> that should have been rm'd when you ctrl-c'd the script
[1:31] <patrickh1ller> from the trap
[1:33] <elfgoh> patrickh1ller: would i need to temporarily modify the permissions of /tmp, since that has permissions 755?
[1:33] <patrickh1ller> shouldn't
[1:33] <patrickh1ller> it worked last time
[1:33] <elfgoh> ok :)
[1:33] <patrickh1ller> well, that part worked. ;)
[1:35] <patrickh1ller> thanks for the trials, elfgoh
[1:35] <patrickh1ller> i haz must sleeps
[1:35] <triplez> screw it... i wish i'm immortal and didn't have to sleep
[1:35] <triplez> GAH!
[1:35] <triplez> so much to write... so many ideas to pen down... SO LITTLE TIME
[1:36] <patrickh1ller> always... it's what makes life interesting
[1:36] <patrickh1ller> what do you choose to *not* do. ;)
[1:36] <patrickh1ller> thanks again
[1:36] <patrickh1ller> seeyz
[1:38] <elfgoh> ok hope you get good results when you wake up :)
[1:38] <elfgoh> hmmm the routing seems to be a little faster this time :)
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[1:39] <triplez> someone should make a machine that reads my thoughts and just writes it all down
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[1:57] <elfgoh> patrickh1ller: uploading results...
[1:57] <elfgoh> haller.ws: forward host lookup failed: Unknown host : Connection timed out
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[9:31] <filePete1> Hey. When is the next meetup? Keysigning anyone?
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[11:17] <filePeter> Hi.
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[11:19] <elfgoh> morning all
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[11:23] <ruiwen> morning
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[11:40] <filePeter> When is the next meet-up planned? GPG-signing?
[11:44] <elfgoh> filePeter: We haven't exactly planned it yet, but should be within the next 2 weeks? Yea GPG key signing is a good idea :)
[11:45] <elfgoh> filePeter: We happen to have a coreteam meeting today, so maybe more details after that.
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[11:50] <filePeter> elfgoh: Coreteam? What is it?
[11:52] <elfgoh> filePeter: http://linuxnus.org/community/ . In short the guys doing the thankless work behind the scenes ;)
[11:52] * elfgoh remembers that he should send an email about District 9 on Thur
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[11:56] <elfgoh> LUNCH!
[11:57] <filePeter> =)
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[13:45] <filePeter> LUNCH, ended...
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[15:40] <triplez_> yay i passed my basic theory
[15:41] <triplez_> now they stupidly don't wanna give me my license because i need to get a color deficiency certification stating that i can drive
[15:44] <ruiwen2> congrats! and umm..?
[15:44] <ruiwen2> colour deficiency cert?
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[15:49] <jamesty1> triplez: you don't have a driving license yet?
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[17:44] <triplez> where is megabites?
[17:45] <elfgoh> triplez: science fac canteen
[17:45] <elfgoh> near the bookshop
[17:46] <triplez> bookshop... *ponders*
[17:46] <triplez> S16?
[17:47] <elfgoh> triplez: it's just opp SoC1
[17:47] <ruiwen> triplez: yep at the ground floor of S16
[17:47] <elfgoh> yes i think around S16
[17:47] * ruiwen raises a hand, "Anyone handy with MVC here?"
[17:49] <triplez> MVC?
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[17:50] <ruiwen> sorry, back
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[17:56] <triplez> so i can just take 963?
[17:56] <triplez> and stop at the big field there?
[17:58] <ruiwen> triplez: yup
[17:58] <ruiwen> triplez: then just walk in towards S16
[17:58] <triplez> ok
[17:59] <triplez> 7.30 right?
[17:59] <triplez> i think i'll eat at home then
[17:59] <triplez> :P
[18:05] <jamesty1> triplez: woo going to nus?
[18:05] <jamesty1> ruiwen: what about MVC?
[18:08] <ruiwen> jamesty1: Is it sensible to have a static method like load() in my models that query (and return) a specific set of objects? Or does it make more sense to have something like that in the controller?
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[18:16] <jamesty1> ruiwen: i would put that in the model
[18:16] <jamesty1> ruiwen: generally controllers should be small, and only contain routing code
[18:18] <ruiwen> jamesty1: hm okie
[18:18] <ruiwen> thanks =)
[18:18] <jamesty1> ruiwen: np ;)
[18:18] * ruiwen goes relook his code
[18:19] <ruiwen> jamesty1: so would i be right to say that the controllers should just take in the request, process it, gather whatever info from the models, then throw back out to the user again?
[18:19] <jamesty1> yeah
[18:19] <jamesty1> what framework are you using anyway?
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[18:24] <ruiwen> jamesty1: the RWFramework =(
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[18:28] <jamesty1> lol
[18:28] <jamesty1> i was just about to google that
[18:28] <jamesty1> then i realise RW = RuiWen
[18:28] <jamesty1> lol
[18:28] <ruiwen> haha yeah
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[19:15] <dqminh> i'm at megabites now :p
[19:15] <triplez> dqminh: err... i'm on my way... :P will be late
[19:15] <triplez> are you guys eating at megabites?
[19:16] <dqminh> nah , only me here
[19:16] <dqminh> i eaten already
[19:16] <dqminh> not sure about the rest
[19:16] <triplez> oh... ok... i'll grab something light over there then
[19:16] <triplez> hopefully it's cheap
[19:18] <dqminh> depends of how much is cheap :P
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[22:15] <icedwater> Gah, got cut off for more than a day *gasp*
[22:15] <icedwater> How was the coreteam meeting?
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[22:55] <triplez> back
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[23:10] <triplez> dum dee doo
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[23:31] <triplez> harlow
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[23:33] <elfgoh> Hello darlings :D
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[23:54] <triplez> where's ruiwen..
[23:54] <triplez> he's super late
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