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IRC Log for 2009-08-27

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[0:05] * triplez (n=triplez@124.155.195.7) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[0:05] * triplez_ (n=triplez@cm52.sigma225.maxonline.com.sg) has joined #linuxNUS
[0:06] <triplez_> back
[0:06] <elfgoh> icedwater: do you have a shipping address in Germany?
[0:06] <elfgoh> icedwater: i am thinking of buying a penguin suit/costume
[0:06] <triplez_> ....
[0:07] * triplez_ is now known as triplez
[0:07] <triplez> err... is this penguin suit going to be for me?
[0:08] <triplez> is icedwater coming back soon?
[0:09] <elfgoh> triplez: well for you or anyone who wants to wear one :)
[0:09] <triplez> hahhaha....
[0:09] <elfgoh> We can even rent it out to any FOSS groups in SG
[0:09] <elfgoh> to recoup the cost
[0:10] <triplez> sounds like a good idea
[0:10] <triplez> when is icedwater coming back from germany? in a few years?
[0:11] <elfgoh> triplez: think last day of sep
[0:13] <elfgoh> triplez: this type not covering the face seems cheap: http://www.halloweencostumes.com/adult-penguin-costume.html
[0:14] <elfgoh> triplez: these types are more expensive: http://www.littlecoral.com/-penguin-mascots_c128?page=1
[0:15] <triplez> LOL... nah can't make it for my appearance hee
[0:15] <elfgoh> triplez: huh?
[0:15] <elfgoh> didn't catch that
[0:16] <triplez> last day of sept = penguin suit will not be here before 09/09/09
[0:16] <elfgoh> triplez: hmmm yea you are right
[0:16] <elfgoh> damn
[0:18] * ngiin (i=daba09f2@gateway/web/freenode/session) has joined #linuxnus
[0:19] <elfgoh> hello ngiin
[0:19] <ngiin> elfgoh: hello!
[0:21] <elfgoh> ngiin: read triplez 's email?
[0:21] <ngiin> elfgoh:
[0:21] <ngiin> saw
[0:22] <triplez> :)
[0:23] * ngiin still processing...
[0:23] <elfgoh> wow amazon shipping is $35 :s
[0:24] <elfgoh> triplez: ngiin am thinking of buying one of these: http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Penguin-Adult-Costume
[0:24] <dwu> Hey kids :)
[0:24] <triplez> overload at someone actually taking up your idea ngiin ?
[0:25] <triplez> LOL!!! we need more fat on the pengiun
[0:25] <triplez> stuff some cushions
[0:25] <dwu> Heehee.
[0:25] <elfgoh> well could some1 find the cheapest price penguin suit at http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Penguin-Adult-Costume?
[0:26] <dwu> triplez: I actually like the tux idea better.
[0:26] <dwu> :)
[0:27] <triplez> you guys figure it out... i offer my service for you
[0:27] <elfgoh> Currently, the $29.59 one costs $64.59 after shipping
[0:27] <triplez> s/for/to
[0:27] <dwu> triplez: That's what she said, hurhur.
[0:27] <triplez> lol
[0:27] <ngiin> triplez: nah... people taking up my ideas, just validates my ingenuity..., it's the only right response sound-minded ppl do...
[0:28] <elfgoh> ngiin: actually i wanted to do the penguin suit thing eons ago
[0:28] <elfgoh> but no $$ that time to buy penguin suit
[0:29] <ngiin> penguin-suit up won't get you the chicks...
[0:29] <elfgoh> ngiin: ok i concede
[0:29] <ngiin> elfgoh: dun you ever listen to Barney...
[0:29] <dwu> The tux will ^_^
[0:29] <ngiin> dwu: Brilliant!
[0:29] <elfgoh> ngiin: Fine. you win
[0:29] <dwu> Tuxes totally get chicks!
[0:29] <dwu> Well, one chick.
[0:29] <ngiin> elfgoh: of cos...
[0:30] <elfgoh> ngiin: fine
[0:30] <elfgoh> ngiin: triplez needs a tux
[0:30] <dwu> fnarr.
[0:30] <elfgoh> get him one since you are the tux IC
[0:30] <triplez> hahaha
[0:30] <triplez> tux IC
[0:30] <triplez> i need a yellow bow tie too
[0:30] <triplez> how does a top hat and a cane sound? LOL
[0:30] * ziyong (n=Chua_Zi_@bb116-15-4-195.singnet.com.sg) has left #linuxnus
[0:31] <dwu> triplez: When are you doing this? If after the tenth next month, I can prolly wangle the tie :)
[0:31] <ngiin> the puzzle now is how to get ppl to see the connection: Tux -> penguin -> linux -> open source...
[0:31] <dwu> Wait, this is for open source?
[0:31] <ngiin> nah
[0:31] <ngiin> just linuxNUS installfest....
[0:31] <dwu> I thought we were just dressing people up to look good :)
[0:32] <triplez> dwu: before 09/09/09
[0:32] <elfgoh> ngiin: well triplez is doing it to promote the event in lectures
[0:32] <elfgoh> so not just install fest
[0:32] <triplez> lectures + open spaces
[0:32] <ngiin> dwu: there are ppl who just won't look good no matter how you dress them up...
[0:32] <dwu> triplez: Well sorry then sweetie, you'll have to get your own bowtie ^_^
[0:32] <ngiin> triplez: got a suit already?
[0:32] <dwu> ngiin: Yeah, but this is triplez ^_^
[0:33] <elfgoh> ok i go and shower... i leave ngiin aka tux ic to settle attire
[0:33] <triplez> :) i gotta shower too
[0:33] <elfgoh> ngiin: incidentally i don't have a tux too
[0:33] <ngiin> elfgoh: can uncle linus sponsor the suit?
[0:33] <elfgoh> ngiin: who is uncle linus???
[0:33] <triplez> uncle linus... lol
[0:34] <ngiin> elfgoh: uncle linus torvald?
[0:35] <elfgoh> ngiin: i would have preferred to say this in private... but here goes: You really learnt nothing at the evil empire do you.......
[0:35] <ngiin> elfgoh: yeah, most of the time, they're learning from me...
[0:36] <elfgoh> ngiin: out blardy standing
[0:36] <ngiin> elfgoh: now that they've learnt from me, they dun have an excuse to be evil anymore....
[0:36] <elfgoh> ngiin: no shit
[0:36] <triplez> atta-boy
[0:38] <elfgoh> and now i shall do some telepathy with Uncle Linus while in the shower
[0:38] <dwu> that's just ick.
[0:38] * dwu retreats under the blankies.
[0:38] <triplez> ... err... i don't wanna know what kind of message you are sending to uncle linus in the shower
[0:38] <ngiin> i hope 'uncle linus' in your context is not your right hand....
[0:38] * dwu ^5 triplez
[0:38] <triplez> HAHHAH
[0:38] <triplez> ^5 dwu
[0:46] <triplez> oh dwu...
[0:46] <dwu> yeees?
[0:46] <triplez> here's the link
[0:46] <dwu> ah.
[0:46] <triplez> got it?
[0:46] <dwu> Yep :)
[0:46] <triplez> :)
[0:46] <dwu> notice? Now you're just showing off :)
[0:47] <dwu> OK, bedtime. I'll read that tomorrow morning.
[0:47] * ruiwen (n=ruiwen@bb116-15-175-27.singnet.com.sg) has joined #linuxnus
[0:48] <dwu> Heyhey ruiwen :)
[0:48] <dwu> (or at work)
[0:48] <triplez> dwu: i dont' wanna spam the channel
[0:48] <ruiwen> hey dwu
[0:48] <dwu> triplez: Heh. That's so considerate.
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[0:49] <triplez> not when a microsoft person is here
[0:49] <triplez> :P
[0:49] <dwu> hurhur.
[0:49] <triplez> hahhah
[0:52] <dwu> right. ninight folks, gotta be up fresh tomorrow ^_^
[0:54] <triplez> night dwu
[0:54] <triplez> it's great hanging out with you once again
[1:12] <onetom> guys, anyone not sleeping and having posix acl experience?
[1:13] <onetom> i would like to make a git repo shared amongst a group of users
[1:13] <onetom> chmod -R g+s .
[1:13] <onetom> find . -type f -exec chmod g+w ...
[1:14] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: running your script gives "haller.ws: forward host lookup failed: Unknown host : Connection timed out"
[1:14] * honcheng is now known as zz_honcheng
[1:15] <patrickhaller> weird, can you ping haller.ws
[1:15] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: yea ping-able
[1:15] <onetom> -type d chmod g+wx
[1:16] <patrickhaller> weird.
[1:16] <onetom> http://haller.ws/ worx4me
[1:17] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: let me re-run the script maybe it was a freak accident
[1:17] <patrickhaller> ok, thanks!
[1:17] <patrickhaller> actually
[1:17] <patrickhaller> before yo udo
[1:17] <patrickhaller> just comment out the tmp file rm
[1:18] <patrickhaller> so that regardless you still have the temp file
[1:18] <patrickhaller> then you can cat tmpfile | nc haller.ws 1060
[1:18] <patrickhaller> and see what the error is
[1:19] <onetom> hm.. what r u talking about?? :)
[1:20] <elfgoh> onetom: It's patrickhaller 's project: http://www.haller.ws/projects/sg-interconnectivity/
[1:20] <elfgoh> for some reason his script had some issues
[1:21] <ruiwen> onetom: to share a repo amongst the group, tried the "core.sharedRepository true" config?
[1:23] * haoyu (n=bhy@cm3.delta26.maxonline.com.sg) Quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[1:23] <onetom> ruiwen: will chk that, thx
[1:23] <ruiwen> onetom: also, for ACLs, maybe setfacl -R -m g:thegroup:rwx repo.git? but i've found core.sharedRepository seems enough for me
[1:24] <onetom> setfacl -m group:$G:rwx .; setfacl -R -d -m group:$G:rw .
[1:25] <onetom> this was my try but git produces drwxrwSr-x directories after a push
[1:25] <onetom> under its objects dir
[1:31] <elfgoh> ngiin: so what ideas do you have regarding the tux for triplez?
[1:31] <ngiin> elfgoh: nothing yet..
[1:31] <triplez> lol
[1:32] * elfgoh facepalms
[1:33] <elfgoh> Well do you guys think there is any need to meetup on Friday to update/followup? And also have a game of HoN thereafter?
[1:33] <elfgoh> regarding our upcoming events
[1:35] <triplez> heh
[1:40] <elfgoh> Wow.. i just heard from a channel that 15 iphones burst into flames in the UK
[1:43] <ruiwen> elfgoh: this friday?
[1:44] <ruiwen> elfgoh: won't be able to make it i'm afraid
[1:44] <elfgoh> ruiwen: ok. well could see what the rest says i guess..
[1:44] <ruiwen> yup
[1:44] <elfgoh> ruiwen: poke Guan Sin tomorrow afternoon about the venue if still no reply?
[1:45] <ruiwen> sure will do
[1:46] <elfgoh> ruiwen: btw HoN photos? S2 says no embargo for our photos
[1:46] <ruiwen> really?
[1:47] <ruiwen> that's nice of them =)
[1:47] <elfgoh> triplez: 75K HoN invites
[1:47] <elfgoh> triplez: see HoN fan page
[1:47] <triplez> so we can post them?
[1:47] <triplez> ruiwen: THE PHOTOS?
[1:47] <elfgoh> ruiwen: they said embargo to be lifted within the next 2 weeks
[1:47] <ruiwen> elfgoh: does the lifting of embargo apply only to those posted to linuxnus.org? or those on my flickr too, so long as they were from Games night?
[1:47] <elfgoh> ruiwen: and camera shot of the laptop aren't that high resolution
[1:48] <ruiwen> elfgoh: processing photos now
[1:48] <ruiwen> elfgoh: oh heh
[1:48] <triplez> ruiwen: yay
[1:48] <elfgoh> ruiwen: if any shit happens i got their email
[1:48] <triplez> elfgoh: err.. i already got an invite... i don't care.. :)
[1:48] <onetom> patrickhaller: i like ur bash programming style. it's very close to 4th ;)
[1:48] <ruiwen> elfgoh: haha ok
[1:48] <triplez> i got so many spare invites... it's not funny
[1:48] <ruiwen> elfgoh: so i can post to flickr yeah?
[1:48] <elfgoh> ruiwen: but like the world will care after the embargo gets lifted in the not so distant future
[1:48] <elfgoh> ruiwen: go ahead
[1:49] <patrickhaller> onetom: ;) forth and shell have a bit in common
[1:49] <triplez> patrickhaller: go forth and spawn
[1:49] <patrickhaller> go forth and stack
[1:50] <triplez> hahaha
[1:50] <elfgoh> go forth and make
[1:50] <onetom> how come ur url.contents function is found inside $()? i had issues with this and it never worked for me without an export -f
[1:51] <onetom> actually i dont understand the extra parenthesis around it either :/ how is a subshell helpful in this situation?
[1:52] <onetom> i suspect some quoting functionality behind it. is it a subshell in this context at all?
[1:52] <onetom> i remember seeing such construct in the plan9 shell..
[1:54] <patrickhaller> ok, so url.contents = a command
[1:54] <patrickhaller> $( command ) runs the command and replaces it with the output, like backticks
[1:54] <onetom> sure
[1:55] <patrickhaller> ( a b c d ) can either be a subshell or a list
[1:55] <patrickhaller> in this case it's a list
[1:55] <jmarki> patrickhaller: uploading...
[1:55] <patrickhaller> so we get back a list of the sites from that url
[1:55] <patrickhaller> thanks jmarki
[1:56] <patrickhaller> ok, i must has go pass out
[1:56] <patrickhaller> ;)
[1:56] <onetom> thx. i'll chk man bash
[1:57] <patrickhaller> check the bash programming guid
[1:57] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: hmm uploading still has issues
[1:57] <onetom> and also run the script for u
[1:57] <elfgoh> i think
[1:57] <patrickhaller> advanced bash programming guid
[1:57] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: can i send you the log file via email?
[1:57] <patrickhaller> elfgoh: ok, sure
[1:57] <patrickhaller> patrick@haller.ws
[1:57] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: got it
[1:57] <patrickhaller> you can try cat /tmp/sg-conn* | nc -c haller.ws 1060
[1:58] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: ok
[1:58] <patrickhaller> err, /tmp/sg-inter* | nc -c ...
[1:58] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: this time output is ""haller.ws [66.150.227.79] 1060 (?) : Connection timed out
[1:59] <jmarki> elfgoh: what's your isp??
[1:59] <elfgoh> jmarki: pacnet
[1:59] <patrickhaller> weird...
[2:00] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: hmmmmm the latest command gives "no port[s] to connect to"
[2:01] <jmarki> elfgoh: bash --version??
[2:01] <elfgoh> GNU bash, version 3.2.48(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu)
[2:02] <jmarki> can you invoke the script using "bash -x ./routing-data-capture.sh"?
[2:03] <patrickhaller> try again?
[2:03] <patrickhaller> i just restarted the listening daemon on the server
[2:03] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: same result
[2:03] <patrickhaller> no haz idea
[2:04] <patrickhaller> cat /tmp/sg-int* | nc -c haller.ws 1060
[2:04] <patrickhaller> that fails?
[2:05] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: "no port[s] to connect to"
[2:05] <jmarki> elfgoh: did you disable your firewall? or allow outgoing to port 1060
[2:06] * SilverWolf (i=SilverWl@137.132.204.223) Quit (Read error: 60 (Operation timed out))
[2:07] <patrickhaller> i see a conect from 116.15.175.27
[2:08] <ruiwen> patrickhaller: that would've been me
[2:08] <patrickhaller> k
[2:08] <elfgoh> jmarki: blank iptables means everything can go through right?
[2:08] <jmarki> eh... no
[2:09] <jmarki> aiyo... disable lah....
[2:09] <elfgoh> jmarki: how to?
[2:09] <jmarki> patrickhaller: did you check if elfgoh is really invoking bash?
[2:10] <jmarki> O.o
[2:10] <elfgoh> jmarki: I am not running any firewall programs
[2:11] <onetom> whatismyip.com gives me different addresses all the time
[2:11] <jmarki> elfgoh: root$ /sbin/iptables --flush
[2:13] <elfgoh> jmarki: #iptables -L still blank after flush
[2:13] <jmarki> elfgoh: root$ /sbin/iptables -P INPUT DROP
[2:13] <jmarki> elfgoh: root$ /sbin/iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT
[2:13] <jmarki> elfgoh: root$ /sbin/iptables -P FORWARD ACCEPT
[2:14] <jmarki> does that work? if not, do /sbin/iptables --flush again
[2:14] <jmarki> whahahah
[2:14] <ruiwen> jmarki: -P INPUT DROP? doesn't that drop all incoming packets by default?
[2:14] <jmarki> hmm... i was wondering about states... =/
[2:14] <jmarki> okay thinking too much
[2:14] <jmarki> then again, elfgoh may no longer be online... =D
[2:15] <elfgoh> ....
[2:15] <elfgoh> yea my online ghost is talking here now
[2:16] <elfgoh> jmarki: hey my INPUT, OUTPUT, FORWARD policies are ACCEPT right now.... even before i ran those commands
[2:16] <elfgoh> But there are no rules...
[2:17] <elfgoh> I thought this means that everything can go through?
[2:17] <elfgoh> Correct or wrong?
[2:17] <ruiwen> i should think so elfgoh
[2:18] <jmarki> elfgoh: yah
[2:18] <elfgoh> So why is jmarki telling me to disable my firewall at 2:09??
[2:18] <jmarki> elfgoh: shell$ nc -vvz haller.ws 1060
[2:18] <jmarki> elfgoh: cos you cannot connect to haller.ws 1060
[2:18] <jmarki> elfgoh: shell$ nc -vvz haller.ws 1060
[2:19] <sng> elfgoh: Oh you're making the classic mistake of assuming that iptables is a packet filter. It is, in point of fact, an aspect of Cthulhu sent to drive men insane. Turn that shit off and filter with soemthing that's not forged from the cold bones of the stillborn, suck, and fail.
[2:19] * jmarki concurs
[2:19] <jmarki> or at least, THAT SHOULDN'T BE ON WHEN YOU ARE DOING NETWORK TESTING!!!
[2:20] <jmarki> grrr
[2:20] <elfgoh> jmarki: haller.ws [66.150.227.79] 1060 (?) open
[2:20] <elfgoh> sent 0, rcvd 0
[2:20] <elfgoh> jmarki: hang on a sec...... so my firewall is disabled but not off right now?
[2:21] <elfgoh> sorry folks you got an absolute networking n00b right here
[2:21] <jmarki> elfgoh: shell: ls -alH /tmp/sg-*
[2:22] <jmarki> elfgoh: your firewall is on, but not blocking. at least from what you described. but who knows?
[2:22] <elfgoh> jmarki: that commands returns 2 identical lines ( i think)
[2:23] <jmarki> elfgoh: when you want to debug on irc, you either paste the output into irc if it's short, or you paste it into pastie
[2:23] * jmarki is getting testy...
[2:24] <elfgoh> -rw-r--r-- 1 elfgoh elfgoh 20066 2009-08-27 01:54 /tmp/sg-interconnectivity.8027.7379.log
[2:24] <elfgoh> jmarki: i suddenly feel like being your brother in law
[2:24] <elfgoh> see my twitter and FB status
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[2:25] <jmarki> elfgoh: if you are my brother-in-law, i would have either smacked you by now, or tell you to let me ssh in.... grr...
[2:26] <jmarki> elfgoh: what's the output when you docat /tmp/sg-int* |
[2:26] <jmarki> eek
[2:26] <elfgoh> wait.. i am still trying how to turn off the firewall
[2:26] <jmarki> bash $ cat /tmp/sg-int* | nc -vvv haller.ws 1066
[2:27] <elfgoh> it is not /etc/init.d/iptables ....
[2:27] <jmarki> elfgoh: does debian use /etc/init.d/iptables??
[2:27] <elfgoh> jmarki: i am trying to find out now
[2:27] <jmarki> try /etc/rc5.d/S<something>iptables
[2:28] <jmarki> and what's the output of that cat |nc command??
[2:28] <ruiwen> elfgoh: update-rc.d?
[2:29] * jmarki boots his debian vm
[2:30] * jmarki marvels at the lengths he goes to at 2.40am, for his not-brother-in-law
[2:30] <freeside> heh
[2:30] <elfgoh> jmarki: well if you had smacked your not-brother-in-law, i would have smacked you back for telling me to run docat /tmp/sg-int* |
[2:31] <elfgoh> ^-^
[2:31] <jmarki> bash $ cat /tmp/sg-int* | nc -vvv haller.ws 1066
[2:31] <freeside> just give up and use curl to twitter it at patrick, lol
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[2:32] <elfgoh> freeside: well it's more than the char limit
[2:32] <ruiwen> or email?
[2:32] <jmarki> elfgoh: email is a wonderful thing
[2:32] <elfgoh> freeside: fyi i already gave up and sent it via email
[2:32] <freeside> heh
[2:32] <ruiwen> haha
[2:32] <elfgoh> but my not-brother-in-law insists on giving me commands to run bla bla
[2:33] * jmarki wonders if he should smack elfgoh, regardless whether he's my brother-in-law
[2:33] <freeside> this peering troubleshooting, you guys should incorporate and get IDA to put out a tender for intranational integrity testing
[2:34] <freeside> you could be earning $250,000/year for this, if you threw in a test of wireless@sg along dhcp, dns, login-auth, and routability to the real net
[2:34] <elfgoh> yea maybe patrickhaller should note that down
[2:34] <freeside> i am itching to see a report of "out of 100 wireless@sg APs, 50% did not offer dhcp, 25% failed on DNS, 10% failed to auth correctly, 5% failed to reach the net"
[2:35] * jmarki didn't see an iptables initscript, but then again, he didn't look too hard
[2:35] <freeside> but, i have written to my MP already.
[2:35] * freeside &
[2:35] <elfgoh> Hmmm, maybe someone awake and kind enough can enlighten me on what this script does? I know generally that it is related to networking... but am not realy a networking guy
[2:35] <freeside> rtfs, luke
[2:35] <jmarki> patrickhaller: are you going to opensource your script?
[2:36] <jmarki> elfgoh: it downloads a list of ip ranges, and checks the traceroute paths
[2:37] <elfgoh> jmarki: freeside yea i know what it does. What i am asking is the implication. Sorry i never really took networking classes
[2:37] <elfgoh> but of course i can google and learn
[2:37] <freeside> see his original post explaining why the script
[2:37] <freeside> http://www.haller.ws/logs/view.cgi/RoutingInefficiencies
[2:38] <jmarki> elfgoh: traceroute shows the packet paths
[2:38] <jmarki> or where each packets goes physically in the world before it reaches the destination
[2:38] <elfgoh> freeside: ok thanks I didn't see that
[2:39] <jmarki> patrickhaller found that routes from singapore can go to the States before coming back to a server in singapore
[2:40] <elfgoh> jmarki: Good Lord! You must be even kinder than this to your real brother-in-law :D
[2:41] <elfgoh> jmarki: your kindness is much appreciated
[2:41] <elfgoh> (seriously)
[2:41] <jmarki> elfgoh: you are welcome
[2:41] <jmarki> and bedtime!!
[2:41] <jmarki> tata all
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[2:46] <ruiwen> elfgoh: Games Night photos are up
[2:46] <elfgoh> ruiwen: ok
[2:46] <ruiwen> night all
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[9:25] <SilverWolf> Goooodmooornniiinnggg Singapore!
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[10:01] <dwu> hihi everyone.
[10:03] <ruiwen> god morgon
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[10:09] <SilverWolf> Goodmoorning :)
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[10:10] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, when should we meet today?
[10:10] <ruiwen> hm.. say around 9pm at dhoby ghaut?
[10:10] <ruiwen> SilverWolf: what's your mobile number?
[10:10] * dwu is still undecided re dist9 :(
[10:16] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, it is 83071375
[10:16] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, It run at 21:20, maybe 20:40?
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[10:20] <ruiwen> SilverWolf: mine's 94567067
[10:21] <ruiwen> dwu: do join us if you can =)
[10:21] <ruiwen> SilverWolf: hm is 9pm too early? or too late?
[10:21] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, late i think :)
[10:22] <ruiwen> SilverWolf: oh ok.. um..845 then?
[10:22] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, yep i think it's fine. How much time does it take to get to the cathay from dhoby ghout?
[10:24] <ruiwen> SilverWolf: it's about a 5 min walk away from dhoby ghaut
[10:24] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, okay cool :p We need some time to buy coke and candy too :D
[10:25] <ruiwen> we can get from the concession stand at the cathay.. heh otherwise we can sneak in the cheaper stuff from the plaza singapura supermarket
[10:26] <SilverWolf> hehe no problem. It's so cheap anyway :)
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[10:30] <ruiwen> haha versus the prices in scandinavia, yeah =P i remember paying the equivalent of SGD 20 just for the ticket
[10:32] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, exatly :D
[10:33] <SilverWolf> My girlfriend and I use around $80 when we go to the movie theather in denmark
[10:33] <ruiwen> ooh. ouch. =P
[10:33] <SilverWolf> including candy ofcause :)
[10:33] <ruiwen> the movies here must be heaven for you then
[10:33] <SilverWolf> yea, it is really cool :p
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[10:34] <SilverWolf> Gonna see every sci. fi. movie coming this and next year :D
[10:36] <ruiwen> hahah
[10:37] <ruiwen> any good ones due after District 9?
[10:39] <SilverWolf> Ingorious Bastards! :D
[10:39] <SilverWolf> and Avatar!
[10:39] <SilverWolf> :p
[10:42] <ruiwen> what's Inglourious Basterds about?
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[10:46] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sQhTVz5IjQ&feature=related
[10:46] <SilverWolf> About "What if hitler didnt die?"
[10:46] <ruiwen> ic
[10:46] <ruiwen> should be worth a watch, that
[10:57] <dwu> inglourious bastards looks kickass, nazi-scalping++
[10:58] <dwu> ruiwen: it's mostly a "munch or movie, munch or movie" decision.
[10:58] <dwu> (multiple social circles :()
[11:01] * ruiwen suggests a coin flip solution to a completely binary problem
[11:02] <dwu> ruiwen: i'd disagree with the result either way. currently it's ruiwen+triplez vs. hendrika+shirley, and i assure you the bitchfight in my head is most entertaining.
[11:02] <ruiwen> =P
[11:07] <freeside> http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/hey-wait-minute/2009/07/28/flipping-out?page=0,1&g=1
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[11:13] <ruiwen> freeside: interesting read
[11:13] <elfgoh> freeside: interesting article. Never knew that
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[12:04] <SilverWolf> ruiwen, Yea definitely! :p
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[12:20] <triplez> ruiwen: did you get the link to the mp3?
[12:21] <ruiwen> triplez: i got it, thanks
[12:21] <ruiwen> haven't had a chance to process it though
[12:21] <triplez> what's the link to the HoN pics?
[12:22] <ruiwen> triplez: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ruiwen/sets/72157622026623197/
[12:26] <triplez> how do i link to flickr?
[12:29] <ruiwen> triplez: click the photo in the photo stream.. it'll take you to the dedicated photo page.. then there are html fragments you can use
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[12:30] <triplez> do i have to log in?
[12:33] <triplez> can't get a link to the image itself unless i grab it directly from the html
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[12:40] <ruiwen> triplez: you shouldn't need to
[12:40] <ruiwen> triplez: hold on
[12:41] <ruiwen> triplez: did you see the html snippets provided?
[12:41] <triplez> nope
[12:41] <triplez> maybe i have to sign in
[12:41] <ruiwen> triplez: sorry missed a step, you need to click on the "All Sizes" link on the photo page
[12:42] <ruiwen> triplez: hm..
[12:42] <triplez> it gives me a download link
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[12:44] <triplez> ruiwen: http://linuxnus.org/?p=796 can?
[12:44] <triplez> if can then publish it... :P
[12:45] <ruiwen> triplez: if you login, do you get a "Share this" link on the side?
[12:46] <ruiwen> triplez: post looks good
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[12:49] <elfgoh> triplez: oh you wrote a HoN post?
[12:52] <freeside> is it just me or does anybody else see a bizarre "ff" ligature in "kicked off" at http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/The_Critical_Mass_Pattern ?
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[12:55] <triplez> elfgoh: you wrote it
[12:55] <triplez> LOL... i just added the photos
[12:56] <triplez> ruiwen: i see the share this now... i'm blind
[12:56] <triplez> LOL
[12:58] <triplez> elfgoh: i'll leave it to you to add the tags and publish... i need to go to NUH now... :) cyaz
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[13:02] <kelvinq> ahem!
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[13:02] <kelvinq> ;)
[13:03] <triplez> btw ruiwen if silverwolf is buying the tickets first... my friend is coming too
[13:04] <triplez> see you there... i'll be staying at PS to do some work
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[13:28] <elfgoh> ruiwen: was thinking for future podcasts files do you want to do a linuxnus.org redirect to opensource, so as to keep the traffic on linuxnus.org?
[13:28] <elfgoh> Fyi, for our last podcast distrowatch only link to the ogg file
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[13:38] <elfgoh> kelvinq_: long time no see
[13:38] <elfgoh> lmao
[13:48] <ruiwen> hello kelvinq_
[13:48] <ruiwen> elfgoh: sorry back from lunch
[13:48] <ruiwen> elfgoh: as in make the podcasts appear to be hosted on linuxnus.org instead?
[13:49] <elfgoh> ruiwen: yea, using apache rewriting?
[13:55] <ruiwen> elfgoh: will have to give that a try
[13:58] <filePeter> Hey. So what was managed at core meeting?
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[14:08] <filePeter> New meeting?
[14:08] <filePeter> Has anybody been at timbre, yesterday?
[14:09] <elfgoh> filePeter: pm me your email address?
[14:09] <dwu> yaaargh. gosh, but no. 4s really soak up the rain happily...
[14:09] <elfgoh> filePeter: I will send you a copy
[14:12] <elfgoh> !twitter HoN night report and photos out: http://linuxnus.org/2009/08/27/hon-y-night-report-and-photos/
[14:12] <elfgoh> filePeter: where/whats' timbre?
[14:12] <filePeter> elfgoh: The musicfestival at ucc yesterdy
[14:21] <elfgoh> filePeter: oh, i wasn't there
[14:21] <elfgoh> filePeter: sent you the meeting minutes
[14:21] <filePeter> Thanks!
[14:21] <filePeter> =)
[14:21] <filePeter> Timbre was nice... Freebeer.
[14:33] <elfgoh> filePeter: would you like to be on cc for some of our coreteam mails?
[14:34] <elfgoh> The more.... interesting ones i mean
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[15:11] <dwu> heh. apparently i'm going on a tour of the camps in the west today. yegads.
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[15:23] <concernedcitizen> howly
[15:23] <concernedcitizen> missed me?
[15:24] <filePeter> elfgoh: Sure!
[15:24] <filePeter> elfgoh: Thanks!
[15:24] <freeside> camps?
[15:24] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: heh i thought you were arrested by Big Brother because you were such a concernedcitizen :p
[15:25] <elfgoh> filePeter: :)
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[15:34] * icedwater has internets.
[15:39] <jamestyj> icedwater: hope you had fun last night ;)
[15:39] <jamestyj> icedwater: and that you had a good trip to munich
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[15:44] <dwu> wheeoo.
[15:48] <elfgoh> !twitter iphone protection latest trend: http://laoban.posterous.com/iphone-protection-the-latest-trend
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[15:50] <jamestyj> elfgoh: haha
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[15:58] <icedwater> jamestyj: Yeah, we should have played more FIFA :P Sorry to put you through that wrestling match :P
[16:00] <jamestyj> icedwater: haha yeah FIFA is fun
[16:00] <elfgoh> jamestyj: HoN is better :p
[16:01] <jamestyj> elfgoh: i never tried that. will attempt to stay clear of it.
[16:01] <jamestyj> (might get hooked otherwise)
[16:02] <elfgoh> jamestyj: it's like dota but much more enhanced.
[16:02] <elfgoh> even triplez is playing it too
[16:02] <elfgoh> i think an occasional game is no harm
[16:02] <elfgoh> did you know that it runs on Linux natively?
[16:02] <jamestyj> elfgoh: that's cool
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[16:15] <triplez> boo ya
[16:17] <ruiwen> hey.. does the combination "Shift-Backspace" kill X for any of you?
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[16:21] <icedwater> Not me, thankfully :P
[16:21] <icedwater> Bug or feature?
[16:23] <ruiwen> well it depends who you ask =P
[16:33] <jamestyj> triplez: boo ya
[16:33] <jamestyj> ruiwen: no it does
[16:33] <jamestyj> eh
[16:33] <jamestyj> doesn't
[16:33] <triplez> shift backspace?
[16:33] <triplez> i thought it's control-backspace
[16:34] <ruiwen> triplez: it's usually Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
[16:34] <triplez> yeah yeah... that one
[16:35] <ruiwen> but i just discovered I had Shift-Backspace do that here too
[16:35] <ruiwen> was a slighly wonky xmodmap.conf though
[16:36] <jamestyj> ruiwen: what distro are you using?
[16:37] <ruiwen> jamestyj: Fedora
[16:38] <ruiwen> though yeah, not very sure if that's how Fedora rolls, or if it's from my xmodmap, since that's been sitting in my $HOME across F9->Ubuntu- Hardy->F10->F11
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[17:00] <concernedcitizen> mang
[17:04] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: so where have you been?
[17:04] <elfgoh> Are you back at SMU now?
[17:04] <concernedcitizen> busy busy :(
[17:04] <concernedcitizen> yeah
[17:04] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: doing?
[17:04] <concernedcitizen> lots of SU work
[17:05] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: and SU would be the acronym for?
[17:05] <concernedcitizen> student union
[17:05] <triplez> elfgoh: boo hoo
[17:05] <concernedcitizen> how's everyone man
[17:05] <concernedcitizen> oh and RT :(
[17:06] <elfgoh> triplez: i have no time for crybabies :p
[17:06] <concernedcitizen> everything's starting to pile up again. damn sian, got media interview on the 3rd :(
[17:06] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: I can gladly facilitate a sure pass IPPT program if i am paid well :p
[17:06] <triplez> what's a media interview?
[17:07] <concernedcitizen> my school's insitute of innovation and entrepreneurship is launching on that day, and they want to interview us :(
[17:07] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: oh tyler will be there that day... i dunno if i will be there
[17:08] <concernedcitizen> nice
[17:08] <concernedcitizen> we should meet up :)
[17:08] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: hey
[17:08] <concernedcitizen> hey james!
[17:08] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: what have you been up to man
[17:08] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: well we had quite a few meetings... refer to http://linuxnus.org
[17:08] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: we're missing you over here
[17:08] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: do you play dota by any chance?
[17:08] <concernedcitizen> i'm missing ya'll too mang
[17:08] <concernedcitizen> elfgoh: used to.
[17:09] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: heard of HoN aka Heroes of Newerth?
[17:09] <elfgoh> It runs natively in Linux
[17:09] <elfgoh> quite a few of us are playing the closed beta now
[17:09] <elfgoh> Do you want a beta key?
[17:09] <concernedcitizen> jamestyj: nothing much lately, busy with school committments, my final year project, preparing for my trip to israel in december, finishing up my business proposal
[17:09] <concernedcitizen> elfgoh: I saw the blogpost on the Hon-y night ;)
[17:09] <concernedcitizen> sure!
[17:10] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: pm me your email please
[17:10] <concernedcitizen> how's things over there jamestyj
[17:10] <concernedcitizen> you guys still working on studio?
[17:11] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: sent
[17:11] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: let me know if you need more
[17:12] <concernedcitizen> on it!
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[17:16] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: wow israel. for vacation?
[17:17] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: yeah lots of new things to do
[17:17] <concernedcitizen> jamestyj: not really, its a study mission to visit startups in their 1-5 year of operation
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[17:20] <concernedcitizen> jamestyj: who's leading the team now?
[17:21] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: cornelius is the team lead
[17:22] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: that sounds like it will be fun trip
[17:22] <concernedcitizen> I hope so :) As long as Lebanon and Israel doesn't go into war in december, I think it should be great :)
[17:23] <concernedcitizen> elfgoh: downloading the linux client now
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[17:58] <concernedcitizen> *crickets*
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[19:00] <hyperair> has anyone dealt with a system that won't work with grub before?
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[21:58] <elfgoh_> hello kelvinq, long time no see
[21:59] <kelvinq> hey elfgoh_ ! I remember you!
[21:59] <kelvinq> sorry... missed you msgs just now.
[22:00] <kelvinq> was busy doing accounting. argh.
[22:00] <kelvinq> more like bookeeping.
[22:00] <kelvinq> end of one financial year.
[22:00] <kelvinq> (and still not making money - damn)
[22:00] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: are you still in ntu?
[22:00] <kelvinq> nah, graduated already!
[22:01] <kelvinq> been in JQ for a year.
[22:01] <kelvinq> (the startup)
[22:02] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: i see. well keep it going running a business is never easy
[22:02] <kelvinq> elfgoh_: yeah... how are you?
[22:02] <kelvinq> elfgoh_: actually the hardest thing is knowing when to give up.
[22:03] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: learning and playing at tyler projects.
[22:04] <kelvinq> nice! working full time or internship?
[22:04] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: full time
[22:05] <kelvinq> we are hiring so if you know anyone (or you are keen), we are!
[22:05] <elfgoh_> python-ers i guess?
[22:06] <kelvinq> yup. python. :)
[22:06] <kelvinq> this time looking for more web oriented people.
[22:06] <kelvinq> like Django
[22:07] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: feel free to use our twitter bot to do a recruitment tweet since it is python.
[22:07] <elfgoh_> instructions in the channel topic :)
[22:07] <kelvinq> you guys have a twitter feed?
[22:08] <kelvinq> that's cool!
[22:08] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: yea we do. and currently anyone in #linuxnus can tweet to our feed
[22:09] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: ruiwen, icedwater and myself are learning django in our little free time
[22:09] <kelvinq> that's nice. very liberal and open. that's really nice.
[22:11] <kelvinq> heh.. looks like everyone loves Django.
[22:11] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: yea django is quite well thought out for web dev as far as i can see
[22:11] <icedwater> Gah, I'm not learning Django yet...
[22:12] <kelvinq> you guys know any django gurus?
[22:12] <icedwater> I'm still finding time to look through Python :(
[22:12] <icedwater> Welcome to #linuxnus, kelvinq :)
[22:12] <kelvinq> :)
[22:12] <kelvinq> thanks icedwater.
[22:12] <icedwater> I'm guessing you and elfgoh know each other from some time back?
[22:13] <kelvinq> yeah...
[22:13] <kelvinq> actually i know most people here by their nicks only!
[22:13] <kelvinq> only person that me thinks i've met is ruiwen.
[22:13] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: there is this russian phd guy who was at the last python meetup. think he should be a guru
[22:13] <kelvinq> even then, i think we only talked for 10 lines in real life.
[22:14] <elfgoh_> i could pass you the name later when i find it
[22:15] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: well irc helps to break the ice :)
[22:16] <kelvinq> :)
[22:17] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: somebody also did a intro to django at the recent geekcamp
[22:17] <elfgoh_> maybe he is the one you are looking for
[22:19] <kelvinq> should have went for it.
[22:19] <kelvinq> damn
[22:19] <icedwater> Hehe
[22:21] <elfgoh_> remind me in 1 hour to blog about codeandroid meetup
[22:21] <marice_nus> elfgoh_: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu Aug 27 23:21:09 SGT 2009
[22:23] <kelvinq> woah.
[22:29] <elfgoh_> kelvinq: people like jarick user marice to remind them about world domination in 10 years time :D
[22:31] <kelvinq> jarick users marice?
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[22:32] <elfgoh> kelvinq: sorry s/user/uses/
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[22:33] <kelvinq> marice is a bot?
[22:33] <kelvinq> !marice
[22:33] <elfgoh> kelvinq: unfortunately yes, though i prefer otherwise :D
[22:33] <kelvinq> oh!
[22:33] <kelvinq> marice_nus: hello!
[22:34] <kelvinq> :(
[22:34] <elfgoh> kelvinq: unfortuately she isn't too talkative :P
[22:34] <kelvinq> !marice_nus
[22:34] <kelvinq> :( :(
[22:34] <kelvinq> how do i use her? is there a manual?
[22:35] <elfgoh> kelvinq: remind me in <int> <time unit> to <action>
[22:36] <kelvinq> oh....
[22:36] <elfgoh> kelvinq: http://www.jibble.org/reminderbot/
[22:36] <kelvinq> remind me in 0.0000000001 seconds to kiss you.
[22:36] <marice_nus> Example of correct usage: "Remind me in 1 hour, 10 minutes to check the oven." I understand all combinations of weeks, days, hours, minutes and seconds.
[22:36] * elfgoh regrets not being evil and leading kelvinq on earlier :p
[22:37] * kelvinq faints.
[22:37] <elfgoh> kelvinq: btw recursive forms doesn't work. We tried already
[22:37] <kelvinq> remind me in 100 years to kiss you.
[22:37] <elfgoh> weeks max :D
[22:37] <kelvinq> ah.
[22:37] <kelvinq> remind me in 5200 weeks to kiss you.
[22:37] <marice_nus> kelvinq: Okay, I'll remind you about that on Thu Apr 25 22:37:57 SGT 2109
[22:38] <kelvinq> whee!
[22:38] <elfgoh> @@
[22:38] <kelvinq> will IRC still be around?
[22:38] <elfgoh> kelvinq: I think so!
[22:38] * elfgoh goes for a shower
[22:44] <kelvinq> ;)
[22:44] * kelvinq peeps at elfgoh .
[22:54] <elfgoh> kelvinq: btw #startups might interest you
[22:54] <elfgoh> I lurk there
[22:54] <kelvinq> ahhhh
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[22:57] <anything> anybody here know dot net stuff mah??
[22:57] * anything is now known as Guest49099
[22:57] <elfgoh> woa what a nick lol Guest49099
[22:57] <elfgoh> Guest49099: yea there is one guy
[22:57] <elfgoh> Guest49099: but he is not here now
[22:58] <elfgoh> Guest49099: he went to watch a movie
[22:58] <elfgoh> won't be back so early
[22:58] <Guest49099> justin lor.... rite...
[22:58] <Guest49099> eh.... i cannot use anything liao leh..
[22:58] * Guest49099 is now known as something
[22:59] <elfgoh> something: yea justin is the man. Who are you btw? lol@something
[23:00] * something is now known as athing
[23:00] * athing is now known as onething
[23:01] <onething> elvin lor
[23:01] <onething> where my anything... haiz... somebody took it liao
[23:02] <onething> yo honcheng! hows the code review juz now?
[23:03] <elfgoh> onething: you must register the nick
[23:03] <elfgoh> code review? of what?
[23:04] <onething> ppl register liao i cannot register le
[23:04] <onething> code review of andriod stuff
[23:04] <elfgoh> onething: i see
[23:04] <onething> ya
[23:05] <elfgoh> onething: honcheng using irc bouncer i think. He may not be ard
[23:05] <onething> only 2 ppl talking leh.. no nid the : thing bah
[23:05] <honcheng> hmm.. she needs to make use of android stuff, n not just java
[23:05] <honcheng> elfgoh: I'm here. has PUSH :) though doesn't work all the time
[23:05] <onething> haha
[23:06] <onething> honcheng: i agree she's very dependant on her own java skills
[23:06] <honcheng> she's good
[23:06] <honcheng> but she needs to start using stuff like services
[23:06] <honcheng> I'm sending her some samples
[23:07] <onething> honcheng: yup! cannot agree more! short cut still the best
[23:07] <honcheng> haha
[23:07] <honcheng> no
[23:07] <onething> honcheng: no?
[23:08] <honcheng> I'm not sure If my way is the right way
[23:08] <honcheng> I just that it is a lot cleaner
[23:08] <onething> elfgoh: apart from u anybody else in game / virtual world mah?
[23:09] <onething> honcheng: nowadays, clean code means gd code liao.... otherwise nobody can read
[23:09] <onething> honcheng: computer so powerful now, dun really need super efficient code le
[23:10] <honcheng> hmm.. personal preference I guess. cleaner code easier to reuse
[23:10] <onething> btw no more mibbit liao ah?
[23:10] <honcheng> mibbit?
[23:11] <onething> the web irc for linuxnus lor
[23:11] <onething> nows the freenode thing
[23:11] <onething> i like the mibbit leh... so it'll inform u someone talking abt u
[23:11] <onething> nway ya.... clean code gd!
[23:12] <honcheng> I'm using colloquy on iPhone
[23:12] <honcheng> it is an open src irc client
[23:12] <honcheng> someone turn that into android ... :)
[23:13] <onething> wah sey.... budden phone batt lousy... can't last long
[23:14] <onething> 3G suck all the power
[23:14] <honcheng> yeah. I'm at 8% now. hoping to reach home before it's flat
[23:16] <onething> wah... jialat
[23:16] <onething> nxt time muz bring charger when go out
[23:21] <marice_nus> elfgoh_: You asked me to remind you to blog about codeandroid meetup
[23:26] <icedwater> onething: Good habit to keep nonetheless :)
[23:28] <onething> icedwater: ya man.... when there r so many ppl talking it gets confusing
[23:28] <onething> marice is za bo?
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[23:30] <icedwater> onething: Yeah, also - I was actually referring to the clean code :D
[23:32] <onething> icedwater: ya... clean is gd
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[23:34] <onething> honcheng: keep dropping & joining muz be either no batt liao or moving around
[23:35] <honcheng> onething: low batt ...
[23:38] <elfgoh> onething: not that i know of
[23:38] * elfgoh is back
[23:39] <elfgoh> onething: freenode doesn't allow mibbit anymore, hence the webchat login
[23:44] <onething> elfgoh: i see i see.... like tat very hard to trace the msg le
[23:44] <onething> unless install client
[23:45] <elfgoh> onething: pray freenode remove the ban lor :p
[23:46] <onething> honcheng: oh man... u need a mobile charger
[23:46] <honcheng> onething: i'm home
[23:46] <onething> elfgoh: ya
[23:46] <honcheng> i do haev one.. didn't bring today
[23:47] <elfgoh> solar charger anybody?
[23:47] <elfgoh> :D
[23:47] <elfgoh> I have seen those around but wonder how good they are
[23:47] <onething> honcheng: was seeing CNA introduce a huge iphone mobile charger
[23:47] <onething> honcheng: basically a big batt to charge the phone
[23:47] <honcheng> onething: i dont like stuff like that
[23:48] <onething> solar charger.... juz like the new samsung phone
[23:48] <onething> they got 1 solar phone
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[23:48] <onething> think charge 5hrs to use 1 hr
[23:49] <elfgoh> actually i would like a shaking charger lol
[23:52] <elfgoh> icedwater: what's your role in FOSA right now?
[23:52] <elfgoh> or SFD for that matter?
[23:53] <elfgoh> icedwater: I told Ghee Keong about RP open source lab and gave him a contact
[23:53] <elfgoh> I got a feeling that he didn't follow up on that
[23:53] <elfgoh> Do you happen to be the Contact IC?
[23:54] <elfgoh> btw onething and kelvinq_ : do you guys play DOTA by any chance?
[23:55] <onething> elfgoh: dota... yup! play wif AI... can cheat very good! play wif normal ppl cannot cheat
[23:56] <elfgoh> onething: i see so has our dear ziyong introduced you to HoN yet?
[23:56] <onething> elfgoh: shaker charger juz like the seiko kinetic watch like that
[23:56] <elfgoh> onething: exactly :D
[23:58] <onething> elfgoh: it'll be cool to see one
[23:59] <onething> elfgoh: communicasia got all the cool stuff, that time saw the LG watch phone
[23:59] <elfgoh> onething: hmmm i wonder if the technology is still patented
[23:59] <elfgoh> onething: you seen Heroes of Newerth yet?
[23:59] <onething> elfgoh: its like james bond movie like tat

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