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[0:00] <hyperair> Silverwolf: and i want USB support which ESXI clearly doesn't have.
[0:00] <Silverwolf> hyperair, me too ;)
[0:00] <hyperair> i don't want to pay for bells and whistles i don't use
[0:00] <jmarki> hyperair: do you even have enough ram for virtualbox?
[0:00] <Silverwolf> hyperair, lol ofcause not. It is server virtualization software. For that you go VMware workstation
[0:00] <hyperair> which esxi clearly has
[0:00] <hyperair> jmarki: i have. enough RAM to run a 768M VM.
[0:00] <Silverwolf> hyperair, esxi are for servers
[0:00] <jmarki> wah....
[0:01] <hyperair> jmarki: with vmware, i can barely even get up to 256M
[0:01] <jmarki> hyperair: vmware has virtual ram... basically a file!
[0:01] <hyperair> jmarki: loads of stuff get stuffed into swap, but otherwise it's fine
[0:01] <hyperair> oh yeah sure, a file. how does that differ from virtual swap?
[0:02] <jmarki> eh? virtualbox requires actual ram allocated to it?
[0:02] <hyperair> no
[0:02] <hyperair> from what i've noticed, you can start your VM without enough RAM
[0:02] <jmarki> no meh??? then how/where does it allocate ram?
[0:03] <hyperair> as long as you clear up enough on the host when the guest starts asking for more
[0:03] <jmarki> really?
[0:03] <hyperair> yep
[0:04] <hyperair> unlike vmware which shoves everything it can to the swap and forces all memory for the VM to be in your RAM
[0:04] <jmarki> okay, maybe i start too many at one time... and immediately started swapping
[0:04] <icedwater> jmarki: How many VMs did you start at once ... and why?
[0:04] <hyperair> to simulate more machines in a closed network?
[0:05] <hyperair> i do that, at least
[0:05] <jmarki> O.o does vmware require dedicate RAM?! i always put a 2gb file for RAM...
[0:05] <hyperair> if vmware seriously just used a file for RAM, it'd be dog slow
[0:05] <hyperair> do you seriously believe a VM can run with all its RAM in a file?
[0:05] <jmarki> hmm... about 5, the last time i did that. 2 windows 7, 2 opensolaris, and 1 debian
[0:05] <icedwater> hyperair: Ah, OK.
[0:07] <hyperair> jmarki: how much RAM for each?
[0:08] <jmarki> hyperair: can't exactly remember how i came to the conclusion about the dedicated ram. that was a long long time ago, on my notebook
[0:08] <hyperair> jmarki: iirc, the file is for stuffing your RAM to disk when you freeze the VM's state
[0:08] <jmarki> 512gb to 2gb depending?
[0:09] <jmarki> and immediately everything started swapping... =D
[0:10] <hyperair> heheh
[0:15] <hyperair> i usually keep my VMs small unless they'er windows
[0:15] <Silverwolf> jmarki, hyperair VMware share the memory between the VMs and only use what the OS uses, which mean what is free is left to the host os
[0:16] <Silverwolf> Therefore you can easily allocate 8gb logical memory even if you only have 4gb
[0:17] <hyperair> Silverwolf: i wasn't aware of that. back when i used vmware server with the gtk client, it forced everything else into the swap and kept its memory on top. and when i used the server with the web client.. even more disaster. the client (inside firefox) began competing with the server to see which process could take more memory.
[0:17] <hyperair> needless to say it thrashed and i had to force a hard-reboot
[0:17] <Silverwolf> hyperair, haha cool :p
[0:18] <Silverwolf> hyperair, hmm, maybe vmware server dosent. vmware workstation/esx is the only read products to use. The server version is shit compared to them
[0:18] <jmarki> Silverwolf: that behaviour hasn't changed? it used to be like that, but now i'm not sure...
[0:19] <hyperair> Silverwolf: well workstation is a paid product. i'm going to just continue using virtualbox and be happy.
[0:19] <hyperair> Silverwolf: and please don't start on the whole paid product = better thing again
[0:19] <Silverwolf> jmarki, maybe I havent used vmware server since version 1
[0:20] <Silverwolf> hyperair, hehe, in the vmware case it is really a difference :) But if youre not using the advance features in vmware workstation, then it dosent make sense I agree
[0:22] <jmarki> Silverwolf: yeah, that distinction seems a bit blurred now, i think... general rule of thumb now seems to be SUM( RAM_GUES ) + RAM_HOST = Total_System_Specs
[0:24] <jmarki> hyperair: some opensource things aren't really stable... i was pushing for a ultravnc deployment. worked very well during testing, tanked during demo. went to get symantec pcanywhere instead
[0:25] <Silverwolf> jmarki, what did you use it for?
[0:25] <hyperair> Silverwolf: yeah, for example the whole up to 256 cpus thing. my notebook only has two. can you imagine how strenuous it would be to emulate that many? in the first place, vmware does virtualization not emulation, so if i wanted emulation i'd go the way of qemu instead.
[0:26] <hyperair> jmarki: some, not all. the things that do really matter are usually stable
[0:26] <hyperair> what's ultravnc anyway?
[0:26] <jmarki> vnc? specifically for windows
[0:27] <hyperair> i'd just use remote desktop
[0:27] <hyperair> but i understand that on the lesser versions of windows, remote dekstop doesn't exist
[0:27] <jmarki> Silverwolf: to connect to session 0 aka console mode in windows. that helps bypass some application restrictions. =p
[0:28] <Silverwolf> hyperair, all vmware virtualization products do emulation. the max there is supported for vmware esx is 8 cpu per vm and 64 in total
[0:28] <jmarki> hyperair: remote desktop is not session 0, aka console mode. some applications doesn't like that
[0:28] <hyperair> Silverwolf: well then, how much stress do you want to put on your laptop?
[0:28] <hyperair> 256 cpus?
[0:28] <Silverwolf> jmarki, oki. One of my friends use it is his company to support all their customers
[0:28] <Silverwolf> hyperair, it dosent support 256 cpus
[0:29] <hyperair> jmarki: eh?
[0:29] <hyperair> Silverwolf: i thought i saw that on the feature list
[0:29] <hyperair> of esx
[0:29] <jmarki> Silverwolf: yeah, but that is for direct connection. but if you try to use more than one connections at the same time, things get hairy
[0:30] <Silverwolf> jmarki, uh, you mean more connection to the same vnc server?
[0:30] <jmarki> works fine for desktop support, not for application deployment
[0:30] <jmarki> yeah. it's supposed to reject the connection. worked during my testing
[0:31] <Silverwolf> jmarki, one of my friends implemented a proxy to handle multiple connection to the same vnc server.
[0:31] <jmarki> didn't, spectacularly during my demo
[0:31] <Silverwolf> hehe
[0:32] <jmarki> hmm... haven't thought of proxying it. but then again, never thought i would need to
[0:32] <jmarki> my boss's best answer, "well, it's not very stable, isn't it?"
[0:32] <Silverwolf> haha
[0:32] <hyperair> heheh
[0:32] <Silverwolf> Sleep tight
[0:32] <jmarki> gave up saving the dough
[0:33] <jmarki> night Silverwolf
[0:33] <elfgoh_> OMG
[0:33] <elfgoh_> we have 135 rsvp for our welcome tea
[0:33] <jmarki> elfgoh_: really?!? wah
[0:33] <jmarki> even by the 80/20 rule, that's spectacular
[0:33] <Silverwolf> elfgoh_, what welcome?
[0:34] <elfgoh_> Silverwolf: we have a welcome tea on 090909
[0:34] <elfgoh_> OMG
[0:34] <elfgoh_> i forgot to put up the blog post for welcome tea :x
[0:34] <Silverwolf> elfgoh_, what is it about? :)
[0:35] <Silverwolf> ah linuxnus
[0:35] <elfgoh_> Silverwolf: just a event to welcome the freshmen to linuxnus
[0:35] <Silverwolf> mememememememe?
[0:35] <Silverwolf> Im a freshmen
[0:35] <elfgoh_> lol
[0:35] <jmarki> Silverwolf: you are not that "fresh"...
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[0:35] <Silverwolf> jmarki, hehehe :p
[0:35] <elfgoh_> Silverwolf: you are a staleman!
[0:36] <Silverwolf> elfgoh_, hehe what is that?
[0:36] <jmarki> Silverwolf: you'll probably scare all the kids into a corner... "that that that scary freshman just grinned at me...."
[0:36] <Silverwolf> jmarki, thats me
[0:37] <Silverwolf> elfgoh_, Im not welcome, but im neew?
[0:37] <icedwater> elfgoh_: Anyone *else* available to blog? :P
[0:37] <Silverwolf> I wanna hear what it is all about... and.. most important, is there free food?
[0:37] <jmarki> Silverwolf: you are welcome, just don't grin *at* the kiddos. =p
[0:37] <icedwater> Don't bully the kids, Silverwolf :P
[0:37] <Silverwolf> jmarki, hehe :p
[0:37] <Silverwolf> I wont
[0:37] <Silverwolf> I promise
[0:37] <Silverwolf> Muhahaha :p
[0:38] <Silverwolf> Where is the invitation thingie on facebook?
[0:39] <elfgoh_> Silverwolf: I will create one and make sure you get invited :D
[0:39] <Silverwolf> elfgoh_, but where did you get your rsvp number from?
[0:39] <Silverwolf> btw.. I have a complain :p
[0:40] <Silverwolf> At the linuxnus site... Why is event information always posted one or two days before the actual event. It is hard to plan after :p
[0:40] <jmarki> =D
[0:41] <elfgoh_> Silverwolf: ok noted :x
[0:41] <jmarki> we are the right-now people!
[0:41] <jmarki> =D
[0:41] * elfgoh_ glares at the rest who have access to the site
[0:41] * jmarki hides
[0:41] <icedwater> Well, we are in a bit of a bind... if there are more people helping to plan, then we can plan more things in advance.
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[0:41] <Silverwolf> jiiir i like the rightnow peeps
[0:42] <jmarki|hiding> awww... nobody got the big bang theory reference... sigh...
[0:42] <Silverwolf> Yea i guess, I will put a post up if I get to know any events
[0:44] <elfgoh_> dqminh: icedwater jmarki|hiding do you think we should ask for the Comcen audit then?
[0:45] <elfgoh_> How big is the audit anyway?
[0:45] <jmarki|hiding> audit? or auditorium?
[0:45] <elfgoh_> Or do you guys think we should just stick with our 'happy problem'?
[0:46] <jmarki|hiding> stick with happy problem
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[0:50] <icedwater> Auditorium would be nice, maybe for the next event. Redirecting people now wouldn't be too nice, I think.
[0:51] <elfgoh_> dqminh: ping. Any updates on arrangements with lecturers for triplez to advertise during the lectures?
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[1:11] <icedwater> dqminh: Long time no see... we should meet sometime soon. :)
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[1:28] <jmarki|hiding> if you want some laughs, here's a irc log from an anime fansub group
[1:28] <jmarki|hiding> http://takafansubs.com/?p=news&id=59
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[1:42] <hyperair> T_T what
[1:56] <jmarki> hyperair: wasn't that fun?
[1:57] <hyperair> jmarki: i'm bookmarking that. i must totally pull this on someone else someday
[1:58] <jmarki> hyperair: whahahah.... and the hack localhost one too
[1:58] <hyperair> haha xD
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[2:21] <elfgoh_> !twitter linuxNUS Welcome Tea on 09/09/09. Free pizza! http://linuxnus.org/2009/09/07/welcome-tea-sep-2009/
[2:22] <icedwater> Wow, whatismyip again?
[2:23] <icedwater> Nice trick, only works on IDOITS.
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[2:49] <icedwater> Then again, I wasn't thinking when someone told me to Alt-F4 in HoN :P
[3:02] <jmarki> wtf.... whahahah
[3:03] <icedwater> Yeah, he was telling me about Alt-clicking the minimap for pinging, lol
[3:03] <icedwater> Then after that I asked about something else, I can't recall what, and he said Alt-F4.
[3:03] <icedwater> :D
[3:04] <icedwater> He apologised - he was on my team - but I'd already been killed when I reconnected :P
[3:04] <jmarki> =D
[3:09] <jmarki> sleep
[3:09] <jmarki> night all
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[12:35] <cyberjames> moo
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[13:17] <concernedcitizen> yum
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[13:22] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: You still want the t400?
[13:22] <concernedcitizen> depends on the price
[13:22] <concernedcitizen> how much are you getting?
[13:22] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: I am getting the price soon over sms
[13:22] <concernedcitizen> what's the specs?
[13:22] <elfgoh> It's a display set though
[13:23] <concernedcitizen> hmm
[13:23] <concernedcitizen> I don't mind if the price is good :)
[13:24] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: $1999 t400 2768-dg9
[13:24] <concernedcitizen> 3 years international warranty?
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[13:26] <concernedcitizen> 2768 is 80gb?
[13:27] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: Not sure. You should be able to google that online?
[13:27] <concernedcitizen> yeah
[13:27] <concernedcitizen> that's what I'm seeing
[13:28] <SilverWolf> y00000000000000000
[13:28] <elfgoh> SilverWolf: what's the model of your t400?
[13:29] <SilverWolf> 6473-rz5
[13:29] <SilverWolf> I dont know dg9, not even google does :/
[13:32] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: i confirm the processor speed, ram and hdd with him...
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[13:36] <concernedcitizen> woot
[13:36] <concernedcitizen> ok brb, go upstairs buy barley
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[13:48] <concernedcitizen> back
[13:51] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: it is a display set 4gb ram, 310 gb hdd centrino 2 t8600 2.26 ghz
[13:51] <concernedcitizen> 1.9k?
[13:52] <elfgoh> 1999
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[13:52] <elfgoh> so 2k
[13:52] <concernedcitizen> 14.4" WXGA+ (1440 x 990)?
[13:52] <concernedcitizen> incl/ gst?
[13:52] <concernedcitizen> dedicated + internal gfx card?
[13:56] <filePeter> Hi!
[13:56] <elfgoh> filePeter: Hi!
[13:58] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: yes to all 3
[13:58] <concernedcitizen> sounds good :)
[13:59] <concernedcitizen> 3 years local on-site?
[13:59] <concernedcitizen> and international carry-in?
[13:59] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: warranty only left 2 years international
[14:00] <elfgoh> i am not sure if there is onsite or carry in
[14:00] <concernedcitizen> oh
[14:00] <elfgoh> But if you are ok with it, i can link you up?
[14:00] <concernedcitizen> it sounds good, but I'm concerned abt the warranty
[14:01] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: i see. Would you still want to go down to inspect the laptop and negotiate?
[14:02] <concernedcitizen> where's the shop?
[14:02] <elfgoh> Sim Lim
[14:02] <elfgoh> Anyway what's your concern with the warranty?
[14:02] <concernedcitizen> maybe you could give me the address and the person I should be looking for?
[14:02] <concernedcitizen> no lar, just not comfortable w/ just 2 years warranty
[14:03] <elfgoh> i see
[14:03] <concernedcitizen> was comparing whether to get a cheaper vostro now
[14:03] <concernedcitizen> for like half the price
[14:04] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: when can you go down? Because he is reserving the set 1st
[14:05] <elfgoh> Because it is a display set
[14:05] <concernedcitizen> I'm not sure, been pretty busy at work lately. You can let him know, if there's someone else interested in it, and he can potentially sell it, its alright.
[14:06] <concernedcitizen> no need to reserve.
[14:06] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: ok Sim Lim Square. #04-31. Contact: Slash. Say you are Luther's friend
[14:06] <concernedcitizen> ok thanks
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[14:46] <kelvinq> ruiwen!
[14:46] <ruiwen> kelvinq!
[14:46] <kelvinq> 瑞文！
[14:46] <ruiwen> *bzzt* wrong!
[14:46] <kelvinq> yes, are you implementing selenium already?
[14:47] <kelvinq> 锐文！
[14:47] <ruiwen> kelvinq: nope not yet.. was just looking at it
[14:47] <kelvinq> i see.
[14:47] <kelvinq> let me know if you are.
[14:47] <ruiwen> kelvinq: maybe for our next release
[14:47] <kelvinq> can share experiences.
[14:47] <ruiwen> kelvinq: will do =)
[14:47] <ruiwen> kelvinq: would love to
[14:47] <kelvinq> where are you at now/
[14:47] <kelvinq> ?
[14:47] <ruiwen> as in where am i working? or where am i physically at?
[14:49] <kelvinq> which co are you working at?
[14:49] <ruiwen> kelvinq: PMed
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[15:17] <icedwater> Isn't Selenium a rare element...
[15:17] <icedwater> Or was it found in oysters? Can't recall.
[15:19] <icedwater> Oh, any comments on the HTC Magic?
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[15:20] <icedwater> I've pretty much made up my mind to buy it - but I would like to ask nonetheless.
[15:20] <ruiwen> icedwater: i like it =)
[15:20] <ruiwen> icedwater: it's a super finger/face/gel/snack-print magnet though
[15:20] <icedwater> Bit concerned about the touchscreen keyboard though, had a few issues with the one on the Hero last time I tried.
[15:21] <ruiwen> icedwater: if it's the lag, turn off the haptic feedback.. it improves the reaction time
[15:21] <icedwater> It's the finding keys and not pressing the 5 surrounding letters :P
[15:22] <ruiwen> oh heh .. hm.. yeah.. not as accurate as i was with my old t9 i think.. but it's manageable
[15:24] <icedwater> Anyone else would rather not buy the HTC Magic?
[15:24] <icedwater> But is looking at, for instance, a Nokia Esomethingortheother?
[15:26] <icedwater> Actually, those keyboards are tinier.
[15:26] <icedwater> Hm.
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[17:06] <jasonong> anybody has hamachi network?
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[17:08] <jasonong> Just installed Hamachi on my ubuntu. Need to test it out :)
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[17:20] <dqminh> elfgoh, so we will meet at 7:30pm today, before Holland V Cold storage is it ?
[17:20] <elfgoh> yes
[17:21] <dqminh> 'k
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[20:13] <icedwater> I'm at home now, will come after dinner.
[20:14] <icedwater> How do you see running apps on Magic
[20:14] <icedwater> ?
[20:15] <icedwater> é¿
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[20:16] <concernedcitizen> Eric Kupper Pres. K-scope ft. Bonnie Bailey - Firefly
[20:48] * icedwater is stuck waiting for a 970 :(
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[20:56] * icedwater is on the way, bump bump.
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[21:12] <jmarki> yq: there?
[21:19] <yq> jmarki: hey whatsup
[21:20] <jmarki> hey you wanna join us for linuxnus welcome tea?
[21:20] <yq> whens that?
[21:20] <jmarki> wednesday
[21:20] <yq> ok man
[21:20] <jmarki> 7pm
[21:21] <yq> school ?
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[21:21] <yq> ~..
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[21:38] <concernedcitizen> http://github.com/davidchua/Political-Watch/tree/master
[21:40] <janjon> Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10_6; en-gb) AppleWebKit/531.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/4.0.3 Safari/531.9
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[21:45] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: nice
[21:45] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: are you running that on some host?
[21:46] <concernedcitizen> I have a rackspacecloud account, but haven't really deployed it yet
[21:46] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: okay
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[21:53] <concernedcitizen> noob in opensource project development here.
[21:55] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: well you have it in github already, so you're mostly there ;)
[21:56] <concernedcitizen> should I get a simple ticket system up?
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[22:01] <SilverWolf> Hey mates
[22:01] <concernedcitizen> sup
[22:03] <JeremiahViztree> yoz
[22:03] <JeremiahViztree> HONING??
[22:03] <yq> hey
[22:03] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: yeah that would be nice
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[22:03] <ziyong> ok!
[22:03] <ziyong> hon!
[22:03] <ziyong> noSW
[22:03] <ziyong> go!~
[22:03] <ziyong> 1 game
[22:03] <ziyong> quick
[22:03] <ziyong> who?
[22:03] <ziyong> wah
[22:03] <concernedcitizen> DID I HEAR A HON
[22:03] <ziyong> sia la
[22:03] <concernedcitizen> jamestyj: is lighthouseapp recommended?
[22:04] <JeremiahViztree> HON HON
[22:04] <JeremiahViztree> HON quick im HONY
[22:06] <concernedcitizen> joining
[22:06] <JeremiahViztree> who create?
[22:06] <ziyong> u all online meh?
[22:07] <ziyong> i never see u all
[22:07] <JeremiahViztree> i goin now
[22:07] <ziyong> who who?
[22:07] <ziyong> 1 v 2?
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[22:08] <concernedcitizen> why not
[22:08] <concernedcitizen> 3v3
[22:08] <concernedcitizen> pubbie
[22:10] <jamestyj> concernedcitizen: i never really used that, but yeah it's popular
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[22:40] <concernedcitizen> woot
[22:40] <ziyong> lol
[22:40] <ziyong> let me knwo
[22:40] <ziyong> :D
[22:41] <JeremiahViztree> wah
[22:41] <JeremiahViztree> my broswer crash
[22:41] <JeremiahViztree> ziyong remake
[22:41] <JeremiahViztree> later i reupload
[22:41] <concernedcitizen> ....
[22:41] <JeremiahViztree> shit
[22:42] <JeremiahViztree> just crash
[22:42] <JeremiahViztree> lolx
[22:42] <JeremiahViztree> ziyong: ???
[22:42] <JeremiahViztree> HON
[22:42] <ziyong> ?
[22:42] <ziyong> remake?
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[22:42] <ziyong> ok
[22:42] <concernedcitizen> WHAT
[22:42] <concernedcitizen> ok fine :P
[22:43] <concernedcitizen> kelvinq: HON
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[22:50] <kelvinq> concernedcitizen: me to horny.
[22:50] <kelvinq> as in, i don't play horn.
[22:50] <kelvinq> hon
[22:50] <kelvinq> hone.
[22:50] <kelvinq> damn.
[22:51] <SilverWolf> Come on
[22:51] <SilverWolf> I wanted to join
[22:51] <SilverWolf> new game soon?
[22:51] <SilverWolf> REMAKE? :p
[22:51] <SilverWolf> concernedcitizen,
[22:51] <SilverWolf> ziyong,
[22:51] <SilverWolf> JeremiahViztree,
[23:18] <ziyong> wah lao
[23:18] <ziyong> play game and talk on phone
[23:18] <ziyong> not easy
[23:18] <ziyong> LOL
[23:19] <JeremiahViztree> im on hon
[23:19] <JeremiahViztree> SilverWolf:
[23:19] <JeremiahViztree> Im in game waiting for u
[23:19] <SilverWolf> really
[23:20] <SilverWolf> i cant see you
[23:20] <SilverWolf> will you invite me to the game?
[23:21] <concernedcitizen> rawr
[23:22] <JeremiahViztree> anyone for hon lolx
[23:24] <JeremiahViztree> How?
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[23:51] <JeremiahViztree> ahhh
[23:55] <concernedcitize1> man I need a css navbar
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