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[0:00] <schiv> kelvinq: heh yes you may be right. i do amplifier heads, though i wouldn't call myself an "audiophile"
[0:01] <kelvinq> schiv: wouldn't contact sprays suffice?
[0:01] <kelvinq> schiv: i have a can of it at home.
[0:01] <dwu> Doesn't contact spray and compressed air do largely different things?
[0:02] <kelvinq> dwu: i'm not knowledgeable enough. :) help me out here please!
[0:03] <dwu> If by contact spray you mean contact cleaner, one removes oxidisation etc. and one just blows out dust.
[0:03] <kelvinq> schiv: the contact spray i have here is "residue-less".
[0:03] <dwu> Seriously, you didn't get that from "compressed air"? What else could compressed air do?
[0:04] <kelvinq> dwu: because i thought the pressure from the "contact cleaner" can do "blow out dust" and more. :)
[0:05] <dwu> Er, it doesn't really blow out? I mean, you have to wipe, etc...
[0:05] <kelvinq> dwu: so i thought, if it's difficult to get just compressed air, you might as well get a contact cleaner. does what compressed air do + more! :)
[0:05] <schiv> nope not contact spray..my intention is to get rid of stubborn dust in sensitive places where i do not want even battery-powered vacuum to take part
[0:05] <kelvinq> dwu: i just leave it out to dry! :)
[0:05] <kelvinq> schiv: *nods* today i learn something more.
[0:05] <dwu> kelvinq: Right, because there's no way your liquid contact cleaner could short out something that compressed air, being air, wouldn't.
[0:06] <kelvinq> dwu: ;) i thought most contact cleaners are electrically inert!
[0:06] <dwu> Most things I use contact cleaners for aren't powered at the time of use.
[0:07] <schiv> those are commonly for mechanical devices right?
[0:07] <dwu> Also.
[0:09] <kelvinq> schiv: no. there are specialised ones for electrical stuff. i used to work in a military workshop that services tanks with electrical parts and they swear by them.
[0:09] <kelvinq> schiv: try this - http://reviews.ebay.co.uk/Why-DeoxIT-Contact-Cleaners_W0QQugidZ10000000004419547
[0:11] <kelvinq> schiv: you might not want to buy something "this advanced" if you are paranoid. some of the contact cleaners out there are alcohol + compressed air.
[0:11] <kelvinq> so you don't get all the "extra stuff".
[0:12] <kelvinq> schiv: and ironically - compressed air + alcohol may be cheaper than just compressed air alone.
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[0:16] <schiv> O.O
[0:17] <schiv> that's surprising
[0:19] <schiv> hmm this is something i might need also =p thanks
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[0:30] <ruiwen> !twitter ODF (or PDF) to be obligatory in Norwegian public sector by 2011 (along with other open formats like Ogg Theora/Vorbis) [http://is.gd/3wZEy]
[0:32] <inimical> cool.
[0:33] <inimical> Theora's encoding has gotten much better now too
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[0:38] <hyperair> cool stuff
[0:38] <hyperair> imo nothing beats x264 + ac3 inside mkv
[0:39] <schiv> it's still not being recognized (vorbis)..even in the audio industry people keep going "i want nothing less than 256-constant mp3"
[0:39] <hyperair> heh
[0:40] <hyperair> mp3 is a flawed format, but it's very popular
[0:40] <hyperair> and the support is very wide
[0:40] <hyperair> re: mp3s and flaws, i'm talking about trailing gaps
[0:40] <hyperair> and leading gaps
[0:40] <hyperair> making gapless playback impossible without some heuristic
[0:41] <schiv> i know a few film and multimedia lecturers who have no idea what mkv is
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[0:42] <hyperair> they suck. tell them to gtfo their field now.
[0:42] <inimical> but vorbis is great
[0:43] <schiv> and you'd be surprised 1 of them used to think divx and xvid to be the same thing, different name.
[0:43] <inimical> only downside to it is that decoding it is more computationally intensive compared to mp3
[0:43] <hyperair> schiv: that's more forgivable that not knowing what mkv is
[0:43] <inimical> hyperair: those are the same people who don't know that .ogg is a container format?
[0:44] <hyperair> inimical: it is?
[0:44] <inimical> hyperair:yes slightly
[0:44] <hyperair> inimical: meh, i didn't know .ogg is a container format myself.
[0:44] <schiv> oh let's not talk about ogg. these people are the ones who tell their students that openoffice is slow.
[0:44] <hyperair> it is. kinda
[0:44] <hyperair> it remains the #1 bloated/slow app on my system
[0:45] <schiv> i mean as in, they literally advise against using it.
[0:45] <inimical> probably because they can't open .odf files
[0:46] <inimical> damn it, google pack no longer offered?
[0:46] <schiv> nope..students submit in pdf. so that's about the only good thing they enforce.
[0:47] <hyperair> schiv: you know what? i still wouldn't advise you to use openoffice.
[0:47] <hyperair> schiv: i love free and open source, but openoffice sucks.
[0:47] <hyperair> its equation editor...
[0:47] <hyperair> i have nothing good to say about it
[0:47] <hyperair> and its spreadsheet capabilities leave much to be desired
[0:48] <hyperair> it's good for nothing except crafting the most basic of documents (presentations, spreadsheets included)
[0:48] <hyperair> but i'm exaggerating a little here
[0:48] <hyperair> it's just disappointed me a little too much
[0:49] <schiv> hyperair: yeah well i see that issue in business applications only, not academia. at least not all of academia.
[0:49] <hyperair> if you ask me, openoffice is FOSS's weakest link. we've got a whole series of kickass operating systems, servers, multimedia apps, but openoffice pales in comparison to microsoft office, as much as i'm ashamed to admit.
[0:50] <hyperair> lyx kicks ass though
[0:50] <schiv> hyperair: not a heavy user myself so i wouldn't know :)
[0:50] <hyperair> schiv: try writing an equation in openoffice.
[0:50] <hyperair> a mathematical equation
[0:50] <hyperair> and try aligning by the '='
[0:51] <hyperair> you'd think that such a basic feature would be in every equation editor no matter how primitive
[0:51] <hyperair> but it isn't
[0:51] <hyperair> there isn't any real way to align by the equals sign
[0:51] <schiv> ahh..
[0:51] <hyperair> not to mention that the equation editor needs to be typed in text mode, and that the operators are just plaintext.
[0:52] <hyperair> there's no differentiating a mathematical operator from text spelling out the mathematical operator's name
[0:52] <hyperair> it's that stupid.
[0:52] <hyperair> whichever braindead fucknut designed that equation editor deserves to be shot. multiple times
[0:52] <schiv> spreadsheet leaves much to be desired i guess
[0:52] <hyperair> spreadsheets...
[0:53] <hyperair> it does leave much to be desired
[0:53] <hyperair> but it still does have a very nice and wide range of features
[0:53] <hyperair> and it's not completely braindead like the equation editor is
[0:54] <hyperair> microsoft office's equation editor is stupid. you have to use your mouse for every other operation, which basically means you switch from mouse to keyboard and vice versa every other character you're inputting
[0:54] <schiv> check commit log and find that bugger =p
[0:54] <hyperair> but openoffice's is worse.
[1:00] <jamestyj> developing a good office suite is surprisingly tough
[1:01] <hyperair> i can imagine
[1:01] <hyperair> but i can also imagine that writing a braindead equation editor is just as tough.
[1:01] <jamestyj> heh
[1:01] <hyperair> i mean they could just lift the code from lyx
[1:02] <hyperair> lyx has one hell of a kickass equation editor
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[9:56] <triplez> morning ruiwen
[9:57] <thelaptop|work> i'm curious... how many of you folks here have classes again?
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[9:58] <ruiwen> morning triplez
[9:58] <maxus> morning all
[9:59] <ruiwen> morning thelaptop.. quite few actually
[9:59] <maxus> morning ruiwen
[10:00] <ruiwen> morning maxus
[10:01] <ruiwen> welcome to #linuxnus maxus .. have you been in here before?
[10:02] <maxus> no, not really
[10:02] <maxus> hopefully i can hang out around here a bit
[10:05] <ruiwen> maxus: you absolutely can hang out here
[10:05] <thelaptop|work> maxus: that's what me and my alterego(s) do anyway
[10:05] <thelaptop|work> maxus: i hardly speak here
[10:05] <thelaptop|work> maxus: but then again i've only been here for no more than a week
[10:06] <maxus> thelaptop|work: I really haven't been using IRC since 2003
[10:08] <thelaptop|work> maxus: i'm not an irc fanatic either
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[10:32] <concernedcitizen> morning
[10:32] <ruiwen> morning concernedcitizen
[10:33] <concernedcitizen> morning ruiwen
[10:33] <concernedcitizen> how art thou tis day?
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[10:34] <ruiwen> concernedcitizen: forsooth, the fog of sleep still clouds my eyes
[10:35] <concernedcitizen> 4 more RTs to go
[10:35] <concernedcitizen> BEFORE FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM
[10:36] <ruiwen> morning el
[10:36] <ruiwen> fgoh
[10:37] <ruiwen> =P
[10:37] * concernedcitizen licks elfgoh
[10:37] <concernedcitizen> i just realized, is 'elf' your initials?
[10:37] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: if you re-read your last sentence, you will find yourself to be incoherent
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[10:38] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: how on earth do you just "realise a question"?
[10:39] <concernedcitizen> hmmpft english nazi
[10:39] <concernedcitizen> 8(
[10:39] <concernedcitizen> o/
[10:39] <concernedcitizen> MEIN FUHER!
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[10:42] <concernedcitizen> the assimilation begins.
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[11:25] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: what assimilation?
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[11:41] <elfgoh> Anybody interested in contributing directly to Lubuntu?
[11:41] <elfgoh> whether in the area of Drupal, development or artwork?
[11:44] <ruiwen> oh btw elfgoh, did mario ask you about the lubuntu meeting some time this week?
[11:45] <elfgoh> ruiwen: I just got a phone call from him
[11:46] <ruiwen> elfgoh: cool ok =)
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[11:47] <elfgoh> ruiwen: the date is Friday.... do you want to be part of Lubuntu?
[11:48] <concernedcitizen> halo
[11:48] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: is that a yes?
[11:48] <concernedcitizen> mmm? I haven't tried lxde yet
[11:48] <ruiwen> elfgoh: i can help, but i don't think i have the bandwidth at this point to join officially, sorry
[11:49] <concernedcitizen> what sort of stuff are you looking at?
[11:49] <concernedcitizen> and I share ruiwen's sentiments
[11:49] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: Drupal site, seeding, packaging, artwork, translation
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[12:03] <maxus> what are the main benefits of Lubuntu?
[12:03] <maxus> i see it's supposed to run X11
[12:04] <maxus> LXDE
[12:05] <maxus> is this good for netbooks
[12:32] <elfgoh> maxus: yea it is
[12:33] <maxus> elfgoh: when is this thing on Friday
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[13:05] <elfgoh> maxus: oops sorry. My flu has gotten to me. It is Thursday evening
[13:06] <elfgoh> I think in the city area around 730pm
[13:06] <elfgoh> I am trying to decide a good venue
[13:06] <maxus> no problem
[13:06] <maxus> is there a web site with info
[13:07] <maxus> it sound actually a bit fun and very useful
[13:08] <elfgoh> maxus: The website is at http://lubuntu.net/ Currently cdrigby and I are working on it But you can find out more information here: http://blog.lxde.org/?p=514
[13:09] <maxus> "lubuntu is currently under maintenance."
[13:10] <elfgoh> maxus: That's right. I haven't done much I am afraid
[13:10] <maxus> ^^
[13:10] <elfgoh> Just showing you the URL 1st
[13:11] <maxus> who is the contact person?
[13:11] <maxus> for the Thursday meeting
[13:11] <elfgoh> maxus: Currently it is yours truly
[13:11] <maxus> ah, ok
[13:11] <yq> elfgoh: hows that thingy that you won on sfd?
[13:11] <elfgoh> In fact, I am in the midst of drafting the a email blast to the local Linux mailing lists
[13:12] <maxus> you mind sending me your contact details in a PM
[13:12] <maxus> okok
[13:12] <maxus> so i guess this will come to FOSA as well?
[13:12] <maxus> not sure if I follow the other mailing lists
[13:13] <elfgoh> maxus: yea FOSA, Slugnet, SLMG, linuxnus, TUSG
[13:13] <maxus> okay
[13:13] <maxus> cool
[13:13] <elfgoh> yq: I think the documentation a bit scarce. Was trying to figure out how to update the firmware but haven't gotten very far. And most of the docs are in Chinese
[13:14] <elfgoh> I alreadt have half a mind to build a better tablet
[13:14] <yq> elfgoh: ah i see. looked pretty cool when he demoed it..
[13:14] <elfgoh> yq: perhaps I have to dig further
[13:14] <elfgoh> Will go back tonight and try again
[13:15] <yq> i guess the experience would be different with bette rdocu
[13:21] * elfgoh wonders if SMU Kopitiam is a good venue for the Lubuntu meetup
[13:22] <maxus> elfgoh: good choice, but quite busy
[13:23] <maxus> elfgoh: do you think they will be happy with a group of geeks sitting around for hours?
[13:23] <elfgoh> maxus: I think it is not that croweded at 745pm
[13:24] <maxus> maybe not, how many do you think will show up?
[13:24] <elfgoh> And I suspect they won't care.... but let's ask concernedcitizen who probably frequents there
[13:24] <elfgoh> maxus: or do you have any other suggestions?
[13:25] <maxus> what about the open area at NLB?
[13:25] <maxus> not so good sitting facilities, but at least got good access to Wireless@SG
[13:26] <ruiwen> elfgoh: i've heard coffee nations at bali lane is a good place for geek meets
[13:26] <ruiwen> near bugis
[13:26] <maxus> yeah, that's a good one
[13:26] <elfgoh> ruiwen: is it closed to the mrt?
[13:26] <ruiwen> elfgoh: ah a short walk
[13:26] <ruiwen> should be within 10 mins
[13:26] <maxus> 8 min walk
[13:26] <ruiwen> heh you've timed it maxus?
[13:27] <maxus> no, but 8 is a better number, apparently
[13:27] <concernedcitizen> hi
[13:27] <concernedcitizen> who called me?
[13:27] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: me. I wanted to know if Kopitiam@SMU would be a good place for a Lubuntu meetup
[13:27] <concernedcitizen> elfgoh: kopitiam is not a bad place to chillax, but wireless connectivity suxors.
[13:28] <concernedcitizen> why not coffeebean
[13:28] <concernedcitizen> which is 3 stalls down
[13:28] <maxus> some meetups like Rocky Masters opposite Brash Basah/Raffles Hotel
[13:29] <concernedcitizen> actually, you guys can go underground SMU
[13:29] <concernedcitizen> there are lots of benches around, and its airconditioned.
[13:29] <concernedcitizen> only problem is lack of W@SG
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[13:30] <elfgoh> heh now i have to choose
[13:31] <concernedcitizen> when is this meeting?
[13:31] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: Thur evening
[13:31] <elfgoh> 745pm
[13:32] <concernedcitizen> hmm, how many people are expected?
[13:32] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: i have no idea really
[13:32] <concernedcitizen> i'm thinking if I can book a seminar room
[13:32] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: But i think it would be a small group
[13:32] <concernedcitizen> within SMU
[13:32] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: that will be very nice
[13:32] <concernedcitizen> but again, connectivity may be an issue
[13:33] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: any chance to request for guest access?
[13:33] <elfgoh> If not at my end i have mobile broadband
[13:33] <concernedcitizen> may not be possible in such short notice.
[13:34] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: well just book it i guess? At most we just deal with my laptop.
[13:35] <concernedcitizen> yeah lemme get some of the administrative stuff sorted out
[13:35] <concernedcitizen> (like whether you guys need to sign in when you come in)
[13:35] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: cool keep me posted
[13:35] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: btw under which society are you booking this?
[13:35] <concernedcitizen> probably under SMU Student Association
[13:36] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: ++
[13:38] <concernedcitizen> elfgoh: lemme try and see if I can get the administrative stuff sorted
[13:38] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: sure
[13:38] <concernedcitizen> no guarantees. but will keep you updated
[13:38] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: sure
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[16:10] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: btw there are quite a few distros running LXDE as the default desktop environment. One of which is knoppix. Think someone has also made an openSUSE flavour of LXDE
[16:14] <ruiwen1> oh i didn't know knoppix had lxde as its default
[16:14] <ruiwen1> it was kde previously though, right?
[16:15] <concernedcitizen> kde 4 is :(
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[16:19] <elfgoh> ruiwen: Knoppix used LXDE from the last release i think
[16:19] <elfgoh> In fact Klaus Knopper is on the LXDE list as well
[16:20] <concernedcitizen> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/22/linus_torvalds_linux_bloated_huge/
[16:20] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: tweet it!
[16:22] <elfgoh> well i am not surprised... i can't run a GUI Linux desktop on my pentium I of 128 ram without problems
[16:25] <elfgoh> Time to switch to Haiku!
[16:25] <elfgoh> or Syllable xD
[16:26] <kelvinq> ok, i got to start sharing.
[16:26] <kelvinq> this Thursday there's a TDM event. you guys know about it?
[16:27] <elfgoh> kelvinq: of course I don't, if not I wouldn't have organised the Lubuntu meetup on Thur
[16:27] <kelvinq> elfgoh: oops.
[16:27] <kelvinq> https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dGxlcEJMMzcwMnJ3ZmJydVpFY0prRVE6MA..
[16:27] <kelvinq> http://tdm.sg
[16:27] <triplez> hey ho kelvinq
[16:27] <elfgoh> kelvinq: it's all your fault!!
[16:27] <kelvinq> hi justin!
[16:28] <kelvinq> elfgoh: sorry sorry. think i need to publish my calendar somewhere.
[16:28] <triplez> tdm? kelvin = tdm?
[16:28] * elfgoh beats kelvinq
[16:28] <ruiwen> kelvinq: heh BeerOut?
[16:28] * triplez beats kelvinq too
[16:28] <concernedcitizen> woot
[16:28] <kelvinq> wtf.
[16:28] <concernedcitizen> alright guys, be right back in the evening. gonna fufil my NSMen requirements
[16:29] * ruiwen gives kelvinq bandages
[16:29] <concernedcitizen> !twitter Linus Torvalds says Linux is bloated http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/09/22/linus_torvalds_linux_bloated_huge/
[16:30] * concernedcitizen licks megan_
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[16:58] <ruiwen> !twitter MOE adopts open stands email and collaboration suite (ie. Google Apps) for teachers. [MOE] [http://is.gd/3yrf7]
[17:07] <freeside> groovy
[17:10] <ruiwen> !twitter MOE adopts open stands email and collaboration suite (ie. Google Apps) for teachers. [MOE] [ http://is.gd/3yrf7 ]
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[17:19] <triplez> hellooo
[17:20] * ziyong just got the zii egg
[17:20] <ziyong> lol
[17:21] <ruiwen> how is it?
[17:21] <ziyong> nothing much
[17:21] <ziyong> lkik
[17:21] <ziyong> lol
[17:21] <ziyong> no android
[17:21] <ziyong> no casing
[17:21] <ziyong> dunknow if i will carry it around
[17:21] <ziyong> :D
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[18:27] <hyperair> elfgoh2: it seems that the email mario sent out might get response from people flying in from overseas. (at least, someone said they'd like to come but don't have enough cash)
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[18:29] <triplez> omg.... big bang theory is hilarious
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[19:15] <ziroday> blargh why do you hate me so firefox
[19:16] <hyperair> ziroday: segfaulting?
[19:16] <hyperair> ziroday: by any chance, are you using daily?
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[19:29] <ziroday> hyperair: no and no, it just took a crap for no apparent reason and filled up my ram with junk. Now everything is sluggy getting loaded out of swap
[19:29] <ziroday> that and it won't let me login to ibanking. Such a pain having to load up a VM just to get to DBS
[19:30] <hyperair> ziroday: hahaha it happened to me before.
[19:32] <ziroday> hyperair: yeah, I think it just has it in for me cause I removed ubiquity and started using chromium
[19:32] <hyperair> hehe
[19:33] <hyperair> i used chromium for a while
[19:33] <hyperair> flash issues
[19:33] <hyperair> then i went back
[19:33] <ziroday> mmm, I only use it for thesixtyone mainly
[19:34] <ziroday> but I hate how its so un-gnome
[19:34] <ziroday> at least firefox sort of badly fits in
[19:34] <hyperair> firefox fits in pretty well for me
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[19:35] <hyperair> i've a series of plugins in firefox that i can't/don't want to live without
[19:35] <hyperair> one is downthemall
[19:35] <hyperair> one moer is downloadhelper
[19:35] <ziroday> mmm firebug is <3
[19:35] <hyperair> oh yeah firebug's another
[19:35] <ziroday> DTA is pretty good too, but any old download accelerator should do the trick
[19:35] <hyperair> linux lacks a good one
[19:36] <hyperair> and i'm still writing mine
[19:36] <ziroday> I might move to epiphany one day in the distant future, and use firefox just for web development
[19:36] <hyperair> i see
[19:36] <hyperair> what's good about epiphany?
[19:36] <hyperair> i didn't see anything particularly attractive
[19:36] <ziroday> webkit based, true gnome, lightweight
[19:36] <hyperair> i don't see the big deal about webkit
[19:37] <ziroday> mmm, its faster then gecko, but not by overly much
[19:37] <ziroday> that and I find it much more lightweight
[19:37] <hyperair> i like v8.
[19:38] <ziroday> v8?
[19:38] <hyperair> if firefox can match v8's speed, i'd totally swear allegiance
[19:38] <hyperair> the javascript engine
[19:38] <hyperair> chromium's
[19:38] <ziroday> ah right
[19:38] <hyperair> by the way, have you tried out gnome-shell?
[19:38] <ziroday> nope, still in the vain hope the developer(s) would drop dead before its finished
[19:39] <hyperair> hahahahahaha
[19:39] <ziroday> I like my gnome the way it is, don't see how gnome-shell is going to make me happy
[19:39] <hyperair> you and every other compiz user
[19:39] <hyperair> well, gnome-shell's first release is going to suck.
[19:39] <ziroday> exactly, what would I do without my spinny cube!
[19:39] <ziroday> might even have to go kde
[19:39] <hyperair> i don't really care about the cube
[19:39] <ziroday> or I guess xfce
[19:40] <hyperair> lxde1
[19:40] <hyperair> *!
[19:40] <hyperair> the cube is just a nice addition for me
[19:40] <hyperair> what i care about is scale
[19:40] <hyperair> and customizability
[19:40] <ziroday> I just don't understand why they're going to clobber a perfectly good DE because they have to do something flashy for 3.0
[19:40] <hyperair> well i wouldn't be that pessimistic
[19:41] <hyperair> gnome-shell looks like it can be awesome, if it actually matched compiz's featureset
[19:41] <ziroday> mmm, I'd wait for the final product before you start rejoicing
[19:41] <ziroday> I bet they're gonna kill ccsm too :(
[19:41] <hyperair> i'd also wait for the final product before you start condemning it to hell
[19:41] <hyperair> heh everything in gconf =.=
[19:42] <ziroday> touche :)
[19:42] <hyperair> well compiz is all in gconf too, but at least it's got a UI to configure it
[19:42] <ziroday> well I guess we'll wait and see how gnome-shell turns out
[19:42] <hyperair> i suppose the keyboard shortcuts applet would be revamped
[19:42] <ziroday> but it better have scale
[19:42] <hyperair> it's got something like scale
[19:42] <hyperair> but it's the top right corner
[19:42] <hyperair> i don't like that corner
[19:42] <ziroday> I have mine binded to a mouse button
[19:42] <ziroday> is most convenient
[19:42] <hyperair> which one?
[19:43] <ziroday> one of the side ones
[19:43] <hyperair> i see
[19:43] <hyperair> makes sense
[19:43] <ziroday> (this mouse has a few)
[19:43] <hyperair> heh
[19:43] <hyperair> nice
[19:43] <hyperair> well i've only got a standard mouse
[19:43] <hyperair> so i use the edges
[19:43] <hyperair> my touchpad is optimized for shooting to edges =p
[19:43] <hyperair> i set a very high acceleration
[19:44] <ziroday> heh
[19:44] <hyperair> so i can send my cursor from one corner to the other within one stroke
[19:44] <hyperair> but when i'm using the keyboard, i just use ctrl+super+arrow
[19:45] <hyperair> the newer compizes allow you to set that to toggle scale, rather than having to hold your modifier keys
[19:45] <hyperair> which is good, because now scale text filter works
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[22:36] <concernedcitizen> guten tag
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[22:40] <shungun> hello
[22:41] <shungun> err
[22:41] <shungun> requested ctcp
[22:41] <shungun> ?
[22:41] <shungun> anybody reply?/
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[22:42] <ruiwen> that was fast =/
[22:42] <concernedcitizen> woot
[22:45] <concernedcitizen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HlaO7P9d4c wow
[22:45] <concernedcitizen> this guy is lol, made all the popular songs into karaoke mtv
[22:45] <concernedcitizen> 1990s style
[22:53] <icedwate1> I'm not sure I want to wade through all that backlog now... so I'll just say hi here :D
[22:53] <concernedcitizen> hello brosef.
[22:54] <icedwate1> How did you all find SFD?
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[22:55] <ruiwen> hello icedwater, welcome back to SG
[22:56] <concernedcitizen> icedwater where did you go?!
[22:56] <icedwater> NZ.
[22:56] <concernedcitizen> vacation?
[22:56] <icedwater> I'm not usually that silent on IRC, you're probably too new to notice :D
[22:57] <concernedcitizen> :9
[22:57] <icedwater> concernedcitizen: Yups, vacation. Now waiting for my visa to be approved before I fly off to Germany :D
[22:57] <concernedcitizen> woot
[22:57] <concernedcitizen> going there for work/study/play?
[22:58] <icedwater> Masters.
[22:59] <concernedcitizen> nice
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[23:12] <jamestyj> icedwater: oh you got your spot!
[23:12] <jamestyj> icedwater: which university are you going to be in?
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[23:22] <icedwater> Osnabrueck.
[23:23] <icedwater> Cognitive Science.
[23:23] <icedwater> And I just lost my SSAG flag pin today :(
[23:23] <icedwater> Didn't make it out of the luggage handling.
[23:24] <jamestyj> icedwater: nice! which city is that in
[23:24] <jamestyj> icedwater: haha you pinned it to your checkin luggage?
[23:25] <icedwater> jamestyj: Yep, and um, Osnabrueck.
[23:25] <jamestyj> icedwater: ah my geography sucks
[23:25] <jamestyj> icedwater: okay that is pretty far from me
[23:25] <jamestyj> i have to plan a trip up there some day
[23:26] * jamestyj wants to visit hamburg
[23:29] <icedwater> Well, I should have helped a bit more and said between Duesseldorf and Bremen and kinda near Hannover, but I don't really care for those places either except that they're nearby airports.
[23:32] <jamestyj> :)
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