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[0:26] <concernedcitizen> hey elfgoh
[0:26] <concernedcitizen> just read about hackerspace.
[0:27] <concernedcitizen> great job there. I think its an excellent initiative :)
[0:27] <concernedcitizen> if you need any help, do let me know. I always wanted to do something like that
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[0:32] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: hey thanks
[0:32] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: well just stay subscribed to the hackerspace mailing list for starters :)
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[0:32] <concernedcitizen> already on it :)
[0:32] <elfgoh> And do a pledge if you feel ready to commit
[0:32] <icedwater> Heh, already on what?
[0:33] <concernedcitizen> deffinetely.
[0:33] <concernedcitizen> (i always seem to have trouble spelling that)
[0:33] <icedwater> Definitely?
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[0:34] <concernedcitizen> definitely.
[0:38] <concernedcitizen> oh btw, BSG: The Plan is out
[0:43] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: where were you last python meetup
[0:43] <elfgoh> was expecting to meet you at your home ground
[0:45] * elfgoh needs to update the hackerspace rental spreadsheet with the results of today's visit
[0:46] <ruiwen> how'd it go?
[0:47] <elfgoh> ruiwen: as what I updated this morning
[0:48] <ruiwen> oh ok
[0:48] <elfgoh> ruiwen: I really like the one at Yu Li
[0:48] <ruiwen> thought you visited more after that
[0:48] <elfgoh> ruiwen: yea I visited others but those are less awesome
[0:48] <elfgoh> and some of those are no good
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[0:50] <ruiwen> i see
[0:51] <ruiwen> one thing to consider is along the environment
[0:52] <ruiwen> comparing the bali lane area vs the aljunied area, it would seem that the community feel might be better over at bugis.. i dunno.. what do you think?
[0:52] <elfgoh> concernedcitizen: commit here pleaes :D http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aq0iCnT5pJBZdGdLVGl3T2JBSVhkVk5kdzQtRFFYWEE&hl=en_GB
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[0:54] <ruiwen> concernedcitizen: pledging to the hackerspace?
[0:54] <elfgoh> ruiwen: For me I value space over anything else
[0:54] <ruiwen> do add your pledge to the wiki at http://hackerspacesg.pbworks.com/HowToPledge too
[0:54] <elfgoh> ruiwen: incidentally, the unit I saw today is in the same part of the building as Ahmad's old office
[0:54] <ruiwen> elfgoh: not the same building though?
[0:55] <elfgoh> ruiwen: same building ie Yu Li
[0:55] <elfgoh> Just different floor I guess
[0:55] <triplez> hello
[0:55] <elfgoh> But the unit got extended parapet
[0:55] <ruiwen> elfgoh: oh okie
[0:56] <elfgoh> ruiwen: I really think that's the space. Kandahar will be cramped imho
[0:57] <ruiwen> hm kandahar.. i agree.. not so much space.. cozy.. but maybe not cramped.. unless like 50 people show up at once
[0:59] <icedwater> Back whenever!
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[0:59] <ruiwen> i'm trying to imagine what a hackerspace in the aljunied area would be like as compared to one at bugis side
[1:00] <ruiwen> people in the channel?
[1:03] <elfgoh> ruiwen: I think it will be an excellent place that can fit 100 people for presentations
[1:03] <elfgoh> ruiwen: it's freaking big
[1:04] <elfgoh> ruiwen: I will try arrange a viewing on Wed, Thur, Fri morning. See whom on the hackerspace mailing list is interested
[1:05] <ruiwen> yup yup would be good
[1:05] <ruiwen> think i'll cancel the viewing of the haji lane place
[1:05] <ruiwen> saw freeside's pics of the place. .it's really quite small
[1:06] <elfgoh> ruiwen: I think cost should also be a factor for consideration too
[1:07] <ruiwen> elfgoh: yup it should
[1:07] <ruiwen> though it shouldn't be the only factor
[1:07] <ruiwen> or the most critical i think
[1:12] <ruiwen> !twitter RT @sgentrepreneurs: HackerSpace Promotional Video http://bit.ly/34t2nj
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[1:32] <elfgoh> triplez: what;s the time to reach bugis mrt from kandahar?
[1:32] <triplez> i msged ruiwen...
[1:32] <triplez> about 10-15 minutes
[1:32] <triplez> casual walking
[1:46] <yq> elfgoh: im gonna gparted now!
[1:46] <elfgoh> yq: backup backup backup
[1:46] <yq> yes yes yes. wish me luck
[1:46] <yq> halfway through backing up
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[1:54] <elfgoh> eh
[1:54] <elfgoh> did we hit $3200 in pledges already?
[1:54] <hyperair> O_o that's a lot of money
[1:54] <hyperair> what's this pledges about
[1:55] <ruiwen> elfgoh: if we cover the entire range there, yes
[1:55] <ruiwen> elfgoh: the previous count was short one row or something
[1:55] <ruiwen> hyperair: for the hackerspace.. though that's not quite nearly enough as yet..
[1:55] <ruiwen> hyperair: wanna pledge? =p
[1:56] <hyperair> gimme some cash and i'll pledge it =)
[1:56] <elfgoh> ruiwen: Don't worry. When I go into rah rah mood, should be able to hit 5K
[1:57] <ruiwen> elfgoh: good to hear =) hope you get your rah-rah on soon
[1:58] <elfgoh> ruiwen: I will go rah rah if we are going for the Yu Li space
[1:58] <elfgoh> confirm plus chop
[1:59] <strohi> heyho :)
[2:00] <ruiwen> f you rah enough maybe we'll have enough for both places =P
[2:00] <ruiwen> but yeah.. would be good to have pics of the place too
[2:01] <triplez> what's yu li space?
[2:03] <ruiwen> triplez: an industrial building in aljunied
[2:03] <elfgoh> triplez: Yu Li Industrial building
[2:03] <triplez> is it good?
[2:03] <elfgoh> triplez: I think it's perfect, but that's just my opinion
[2:03] <triplez> any quotes?
[2:03] <elfgoh> $1.80/sq ft
[2:04] <elfgoh> near lift and toilet too
[2:04] <triplez> and the place you're looking at?
[2:04] <triplez> how many sq ft is it?
[2:04] <elfgoh> around 1800 sq ft
[2:04] <triplez> what is the lease like?
[2:04] <elfgoh> didn't ask
[2:05] <triplez> ok
[2:05] <elfgoh> and i really like the balcony
[2:05] <triplez> pictures?
[2:05] <elfgoh> triplez: Sorry none at the moment
[2:05] <elfgoh> I was in a hurry
[2:05] <triplez> comparing that place and the one at kampong glam...
[2:05] <triplez> which is in a better condition?
[2:05] <ruiwen> elfgoh: could you take pics when you next visit? i'm not sure if i'll be able to make a morn trip to aljunied.. but pics would be good all the same
[2:05] <elfgoh> visited like 3 other places
[2:06] <elfgoh> triplez: I think this one it is just naked
[2:06] <triplez> naked? how so?
[2:06] <elfgoh> and relatively cleaner
[2:07] <elfgoh> triplez: just clean walls
[2:07] <elfgoh> no false ceiling
[2:07] <triplez> any cracks?
[2:07] <triplez> how high is the ceiling?
[2:07] <elfgoh> triplez: unsure about cracks
[2:07] <triplez> double storey or justsingle?
[2:07] <elfgoh> single
[2:07] <triplez> just a flat big area?
[2:08] <elfgoh> ceiling is quite high... i would think 3m?
[2:08] <triplez> rectangular area...? or angluar...?
[2:08] <elfgoh> triplez: angular
[2:08] <elfgoh> 2 doors
[2:08] <triplez> 2 doors? where?
[2:09] <elfgoh> the room has 2 doors
[2:09] <triplez> so it's just 1 huge area... 1800 in total
[2:09] <elfgoh> yea
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[2:09] <triplez> any flat huge wall?
[2:09] <elfgoh> triplez: yea plenty
[2:09] <triplez> sounds perfect
[2:10] <elfgoh> triplez: right beside it is a 1200 sq ft unit, which we could knock down the wall if we take that too
[2:10] <elfgoh> thus combining the 2 units
[2:10] <triplez> but thats gonna cost more
[2:10] <elfgoh> yea was just mentioning the trivia
[2:11] <triplez> how about the area? how's the scene like?
[2:12] <elfgoh> definitely a lot of food
[2:12] <elfgoh> also durian stalls as well
[2:12] <triplez> is the place airconditioned?
[2:13] <elfgoh> nope naked means no air conditioned. But 1 unit at prosper has air condition
[2:13] <triplez> hmmm... ok
[2:13] <ruiwen> elfgoh: oh no air conditioning provided?
[2:13] <ruiwen> elfgoh: hm.. that will cost some to put in then
[2:14] <triplez> ruiwen: probably needs new a/c units anyway... anywhere
[2:14] <elfgoh> ruiwen: yea no air conditioning. Does Kandahar have any?
[2:14] <triplez> sleep time
[2:14] <triplez> night
[2:14] <ruiwen> triplez: the ones at kandahar looked ok.. maybe just in need of servicing
[2:15] <ruiwen> for yu li, if they don't already have we probably need to get some installed
[2:22] <freeside> if we can get the community excited enough, we could totally have two spaces
[2:22] <freeside> that would be cool
[2:26] <elfgoh> well well my appointment at 9am is cancelled
[2:27] <ruiwen> hm?
[2:27] <elfgoh> Just saw an sms from the agent accusing me of using him as an info base.... and going direct to the owners
[2:28] <ruiwen> eh?
[2:28] <ruiwen> did you do that?
[2:28] <ruiwen> do you know what prompted that?
[2:29] <elfgoh> ruiwen: it's a misunderstanding. Basically the agent has 2 units at Prosper House. So I was visiting Prosper Industrial Building today. And the building owner told me that he was also managing Prosper House, and offered to show me those 2 units, which were the units held by the agent
[2:30] <ruiwen> ah okie
[2:30] <ruiwen> and so the agent thought you were trying to bypass him
[2:30] <elfgoh> ruiwen: indeed, which was true, but happened because of the freak accident
[2:31] <elfgoh> right now I feel pumped up to create a real estate service just to let people bypass realtors more easily
[2:31] <elfgoh> :D
[2:32] <elfgoh> heh kidding
[2:32] <elfgoh> well at least he was polite in the cancellation of the appointment
[2:35] <elfgoh> damn my locations mail got bounced back as i sent it with my yahoo address instead of gmail
[2:41] <freeside> a real estate service for bypassing realtors is, i think, craigslist. or http://rentspace.sg/
[2:49] <ruiwen> elfgoh: possible to map the locations on http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=105595029683259027041.00047641065b962c61272&ll=1.325451,103.854961&spn=0.103656,0.154324&z=13
[2:49] <elfgoh> ruiwen: what time do you need to reach office?
[2:49] <ruiwen> when?
[2:50] <elfgoh> like on this coming wed, thur and Fri
[2:51] <elfgoh> ruiwen: Hmmm I will just add Yu Li I guess
[2:51] <ruiwen> i usually get in around 9-odd to 10
[2:53] <elfgoh> ruiwen: well i could attempt to schedule visits from 830am onwards
[2:54] <ruiwen> heh that's seriously early in the morn
[2:54] <elfgoh> ruiwen: Sorry how do I add an info balloon?
[2:54] <elfgoh> ruiwen: or 845 then
[2:55] <elfgoh> ruiwen: I found Yu Li... just need to figure how to add that in
[2:55] <elfgoh> Do I have the rights for that?
[2:56] <ruiwen> you should. .it's a public map
[2:56] <elfgoh> btw does anyone know if trac has themes other than ugly themes?
[2:56] <ruiwen> elfgoh: just search for the location in the address bar, then click Save to.. in the side bar
[2:56] <elfgoh> :p
[2:56] <ruiwen> ah.. the search box, not address bar
[2:56] <elfgoh> ruiwen: ok got it
[2:58] <freeside> i'm curious about the street life aspect at yu li, etc, -- are there good coffeeshops around, restaurants, sit down, etc.
[3:04] <hyperair> hmm has anyone heard of nftables?
[3:05] <hyperair> apparently it's set to replace iptables in the future
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[3:06] <ruiwen> haven't heard of them hyperair
[3:06] <ruiwen> yq: how'd partitioning go?
[3:06] <hyperair> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nftables
[3:06] <hyperair> ruiwen: ^
[3:06] <yq> ah turns out that im using wubi
[3:06] <ruiwen> hyperair: thanks
[3:06] <elfgoh> freeside: there are plenty of choices i think. I think that area is known for its food too
[3:06] <yq> so the process is a bit different.
[3:06] <yq> lvpm is copying my root hd over now
[3:07] <elfgoh> freeside: but let's if anyone familar with the area can provide more info
[3:07] <elfgoh> Otherwise, we could go for an excursion again
[3:09] <yq> elfgoh: dont use trac. use redmine
[3:09] <yq> =P
[3:09] <elfgoh> yq: heh not me... my boss
[3:09] <ruiwen> haha yq trying to convert everyone eh
[3:09] <elfgoh> yq: it works with svn too i assume?
[3:09] <yq> hah. just that its really cool
[3:09] <yq> i would think so
[3:10] <yq> supports quite an array of versioning systems
[3:10] <elfgoh> yq: name me 3 things that's really cool
[3:10] <yq> ruiwen: the thing is.. the plugins are not up to date to work with the latest version
[3:10] <yq> elfgoh: er it looks cool hahah. i think ruiwen has a better idea why it is really good. coz he had his hands with trac before i showed him redmine
[3:11] <ruiwen> freeside: the yu li aljunied area.. from what i've experienced working around there previously, you'll get your usually geylang-y street fare at night.. with residential hawker centre stuff in the day.. no really notable food outlets in the way of nabins though
[3:11] <yq> for one he mentioned that there is integrated gant chart tool that would other wise be a separate application
[3:11] <yq> elfgoh: i think its also different from trac by allowing projects and subprojects to be created
[3:12] <ruiwen> well i quite liked the fact that it had an integrated time tracking bit.. we're currently using a separate piece of software for that
[3:12] <hyperair> yq: redmine ftw
[3:12] <ruiwen> am going to try setting up redmine to give it a go sometime this week to evaluate it a bit
[3:13] <hyperair> it works well with git i heard =p
[3:13] <jmarki> oooooo... redmine looks cools
[3:13] <yq> hyperair: heh yeah. but i do see some articles saying that the community has got tools that can get trac souped up in a same way... so.. if migration is troublesome... maybe no need to change
[3:13] <yq> ooo.. hahah yq for the win..
[3:13] <hyperair> yq: last i heard trac sucked big time =\
[3:13] <hyperair> i can't remember from where
[3:13] <yq> ruiwen: great. you'd probably be the best person to judge
[3:14] <hyperair> but there were some complaints from some places i think
[3:14] <yq> hyperair: hmmm redmine has got lots of things working out of the box i think
[3:14] <yq> for trac.. i wanted to do git. and had to do some sort of hack
[3:14] <ruiwen> hyperair: the recent trac 0.11 is quite a bit slower than 0.10 i think
[3:14] <ruiwen> hyperair: new templating system apparently
[3:14] <hyperair> that sucks.
[3:15] <jmarki> whahahah.... trac describes redmine as a trac clone
[3:15] <elfgoh> Guys any idea if it is possible to run trac and redmine side by side?
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[3:15] <ruiwen> am going to try to do that =P
[3:16] <jmarki> is redmine able to link different projects together?
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[3:17] <yq> jmarki: what do you mean link different projects together
[3:17] <jmarki> as in one main project, and many subprojects
[3:18] <yq> yeah it has that
[3:18] <jmarki> wee~
[3:18] <jmarki> time to change!
[3:18] <yq> http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/RedMine
[3:18] <yq> hah funny trac is gonna get redmine features too
[3:19] <jmarki> trac has been trying to do multiple projects for so very long
[3:19] <yq> i see
[3:19] <jmarki> i had to work around it by having thousand and one tags
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[3:21] <elfgoh> Bed!
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[3:22] <jmarki> wahahahahah.... redmine is cool...
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[3:25] <yq> bahh lvpm failed
[3:25] <ruiwen> goodnight all
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[3:31] <jmarki> night all
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[10:19] <concernedcitizen> good morning
[10:19] <concernedcitizen> :)
[10:21] <ruiwen> morning concernedcitizen
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[11:13] <ruiwen> has anyone here tried web.py?
[11:17] <elfgoh> onetom: you said you are free to visit on Wedneday. Will that be morning or evening?
[11:18] <elfgoh> s/visit/visit Aljunied/
[11:18] <ruiwen> *cough*evening!*cough*
[11:19] <elfgoh> ruiwen: well i am not sure if that is possible...
[11:19] <elfgoh> i can try to arrange and see..
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[11:31] <ruiwen> elfgoh: if you can would be good, thanks
[11:32] <elfgoh> ruiwen: Even if we need to pay the uncle $50 to stay back and open the office?
[11:32] <elfgoh> :D
[11:34] <ruiwen> elfgoh: ah? why the fee?
[11:35] <elfgoh> ruiwen: Cos the uncle is the building maintenance officer, not the agent and he only works during office hours.
[11:35] <elfgoh> Thought he might need to motivation if we really needs to stay back
[11:35] <ruiwen> oh ok
[11:35] <elfgoh> of course i could ask the agent to worry about that
[11:35] <ruiwen> well so long as he's not asking for the money there's no need to offer =)
[11:36] <ruiwen> i mean it's only to his benefit that there are potential tenants right?
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[11:37] <elfgoh> ruiwen: You talking about the uncle or agent?
[11:37] <ruiwen> elfgoh: hm oh.. maintenance officer.. maybe he's just working there then
[11:38] <ruiwen> but yeah.. it'll definitely be a benefit to the agent
[11:38] <elfgoh> yea the uncle is just working there
[11:38] <ruiwen> so see if he can convince the maintenance guy then
[11:38] <elfgoh> hello mallipeddi
[11:39] <ruiwen> wow.. debian's fastest mirror from nus is.... hong kong
[11:39] <ruiwen> and not the one down the road in soc.. i'm impressed
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[11:58] <mallipeddi> hi elfgoh
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[15:13] <icedwater> Yo folks!
[15:14] <stroh> yo user!
[15:14] * icedwater snorts.
[15:15] <icedwater> I misread my timetable and rushed for an 8am class that was cancelled :D
[15:15] <icedwater> 1 hour late anyway, but still. It's the thought that counts... apparently I wasn't thinking much :P
[15:16] <stroh> haha :D
[15:18] <icedwater> Oh well, I'll get some more breakfast and wait for my next class.
[15:18] * icedwater waves ;)
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[15:53] <ruiwen> elfgoh: got your google wave already eh?
[15:54] <elfgoh> ruiwen: yes i do. Yet to start using it yet
[15:54] <ruiwen> elfgoh: cool cool
[15:55] <ruiwen> anyone else on google wave here?
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[15:55] <schiv> invite? =p
[15:59] <ruiwen> don't have any as yet unfortunately schiv =(
[16:00] <yq> ruiwen: hah.. migration failed
[16:00] <schiv> ruiwen: heh no worries
[16:01] <ruiwen> yq: darn.. what happened?
[16:01] <ruiwen> yq: data still safe though?
[16:01] <yq> yeah
[16:01] <yq> nah hte process is quite safe
[16:01] <yq> resized the partitions
[16:02] <yq> and lvpm is supposed to move my wubi ubuntu into that actual partition instead of leeching of windows one
[16:02] <yq> after copying the distribution over, it just doesnt boot..
[16:02] <yq> in the end.. i just installed a fresh copy
[16:04] <ruiwen> oh heh ok
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[16:14] <elfgoh> ruiwen: am trying to arrange aljunied visit at 730pm
[16:15] <ruiwen> tomorrow?
[16:15] <ruiwen> would be good, thanks =)
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[22:26] <triplez> harlow
[22:31] <schiv> is it a known problem that we can't access singpass-based applets/sites?
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[22:32] * schiv hates to install another browser just for funny quirks like these
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[22:34] <schiv> ok nvm..i forgot i had vbox =p
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[22:36] <triplez> test
[22:36] <triplez> ok... it works
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[23:25] <onetom> elfgoh__: u said morning in the email but if there is a group visiting in the evening, thats better for me
[23:27] <elfgoh__> onetom: ok. i might organise both, depending on the agent's schedule
[23:35] <onetom> 97 81 41 00 <-- call me anytime
[23:35] <onetom> pls
[23:35] <onetom> thx
[23:35] <onetom> etc
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