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[0:00] <elfgoh> freeside: or is everyone stereotyping geylang to be the place with good horfun only?
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[0:00] <freeside> i think they're responding more to the shisha
[0:00] <freeside> and the cafes and restaurants of various levels of service
[0:00] <freeside> and the more homely feel of a shophouse
[0:01] <freeside> but i shouldn't speculate, let's just find out from the mailing list
[0:03] <elfgoh> freeside: any idea where patrickhaller is? Been wanting to hear his opinion on this too
[0:03] <davidchua> shisha may be banned soon ...
[0:04] <freeside> dunno, havent seen him on irc in a while
[0:04] <freeside> i think he went home to koon
[0:05] <freeside> he'll be back tomorrow
[0:06] <elfgoh> freeside: well currently ruiwen, yq, onetom, and iirc jeffrey prefers Yu Li
[0:13] <freeside> maybe we should have 2 locations!
[0:13] <freeside> if we can get the funding up to that point, why not
[0:13] * freeside &
[0:20] <elfgoh> freeside: an interesting proposition
[0:20] <elfgoh> So maybe when Kandahar gets too crowded, people can spill over to aljunied
[0:21] <elfgoh> freeside: well if that's the case then maybe we need different rates for those who can access both aljunied and Kandahar , and those who can access Aljunied
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[0:30] <elfgoh> hello gb|work
[0:31] <gb|work> elfgoh: yes
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[0:31] <elfgoh> gb|work: so you are at work now?
[0:31] <triplez> yo
[0:32] <elfgoh> hey triplez good job with the windows 7 party today
[0:32] <triplez> err... thanks?
[0:32] <triplez> any bad comments besides the venue?
[0:32] <triplez> and the lack of a/c
[0:32] <gb|work> elfgoh: not at the moment :)
[0:32] <elfgoh> triplez: aircon
[0:33] <triplez> hee... i know
[0:33] <triplez> anything else?
[0:34] <elfgoh> triplez: was there any music planned in the 1st place?
[0:34] <triplez> yes actually...
[0:34] <triplez> not good?
[0:34] <elfgoh> triplez: I didn't hear any.
[0:35] <elfgoh> triplez: think not enough of a party feel
[0:35] <triplez> oh... i think he lowered the music so people can talk
[0:35] <triplez> yeah... if i had the venue at SMU it would have been better
[0:35] <triplez> sadly.... :(
[0:36] <elfgoh> triplez: hackerspace @ aljunied next time... if the community decides on that
[0:36] <triplez> actually yes.. we were talking about it
[0:36] <triplez> i got the tech65 guys to commit to do recording there when it opens
[0:36] <triplez> and any other events we host
[0:36] <triplez> social tech events
[0:37] <elfgoh> triplez: well I didn't do a pitch at the end as I wasn't that sure how many were techie people
[0:37] <triplez> half half
[0:37] <elfgoh> But I did share with like 4 people and showed them the Yu Li video on my android
[0:37] <triplez> but i can tell you there were some people in the creative industry
[0:37] <triplez> we shouldn't concentrate on just tech people
[0:37] <triplez> so yeah
[0:38] <elfgoh> triplez: yea I shared with Melvin Yuan
[0:38] <elfgoh> He is quite supportive and willing to help us publicise once it is up
[0:39] <triplez> great
[0:39] <triplez> like i said... you should not care about whether if it's tech people or not
[0:40] <triplez> but anyway... so more music... more party feel
[0:40] <triplez> would balloons help?
[0:40] <triplez> and party ware?
[0:41] <elfgoh> triplez: yea your party poppers and all
[0:41] <triplez> got it
[0:41] <triplez> i'll do that next time...
[0:42] <triplez> anything else?
[0:42] <elfgoh> triplez: more kids and girls
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[0:43] <elfgoh> triplez: For prizes..... the shirt sizes were a limiting factor....
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[0:44] <elfgoh> <elfgoh> triplez: more kids and girls
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[0:44] <elfgoh> <elfgoh> triplez: For prizes..... the shirt sizes were a limiting factor....
[0:44] <triplez> HAHAHAHA!! actually there were about 8-10 girls there. and 1 kid. :P
[0:44] <triplez> i was surprised at the number of girls who turned up
[0:44] <triplez> hmm... ok... i wanted to get a variety actually
[0:44] <elfgoh> triplez: maybe what you can do is to have x+5 prizes....
[0:44] <triplez> so you're saying i should just get 1 size for all?
[0:44] <triplez> x+5?
[0:45] <elfgoh> triplez: then let the winners choose x prizes in all... the remaining 5 just FFA
[0:46] <triplez> hmm... note that i bought ALL the prizes with my own money
[0:46] <triplez> the food = my own $$ too
[0:46] <triplez> everything you see there is all my money
[0:46] <elfgoh> triplez: noted, and considered. But giving feedback for the best case scenario dear
[0:46] <triplez> yeah i know
[0:46] * triplez licks elfgoh
[0:46] <triplez> yes dear
[0:47] <triplez> if i could buy more prizes i would have...
[0:47] <triplez> *sigh*
[0:47] <elfgoh> Well I don't have anything good to say about Microsoft as a company after seeing you spend your own $$
[0:47] <triplez> but *some company* doesn't want to *support me by giving me any swag*
[0:48] <triplez> btw... it's only microsoft singapore
[0:48] <triplez> it wasn't like that when i dealt with microsoft canada
[0:48] <elfgoh> tsk tsk
[0:48] <elfgoh> director MP some more
[0:49] * elfgoh goes write letter to Forum :p
[0:49] <triplez> what's director mp?
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[0:49] <hyperair> there was a nice windows 7 booth opposite the japan linux symposium =p
[0:49] <triplez> hehe... yeah i know about that
[0:49] <hyperair> heheh
[0:50] <hyperair> and linus gave thumbs up
[0:50] <hyperair> =p
[0:50] <triplez> yeah
[0:50] <triplez> elfgoh: what director MP?
[0:50] <elfgoh> triplez: MP Jessica Tan
[0:50] <triplez> who's she?
[0:50] <triplez> director of microsoft?
[0:50] <hyperair> naturally, if linus himself gives windows 7 thumbs up, i have to try windows 7 (and i did, this afternoon. not really impressed.)
[0:51] <hyperair> what's MP?
[0:51] <elfgoh> triplez: think so
[0:51] <triplez> oh ok
[0:51] <elfgoh> hyperair: Member of Parliament
[0:51] <hyperair> ah
[0:51] <hyperair> haha
[0:51] <triplez> anyway i super give up on microsoft singapore liao
[0:51] <triplez> i'm going rogue
[0:51] <triplez> actually i already went rogue
[0:51] <elfgoh> so Microsoft triplez ?
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[0:52] <triplez> sigh... no point grumbling and complaining about them already
[0:52] <triplez> but do you like the free and easy format? no agenda
[0:52] <triplez> the agenda was very much created by the attendees
[0:53] <elfgoh> triplez: yea it's good but when i go and try... like only me trying.... I had no idea what to do
[0:53] <elfgoh> as in no idea what new features there are
[0:53] <triplez> hahaha... you should just ask people around... a lot of them super windows 7 fanboy
[0:53] <elfgoh> But then again, I am a super late comer
[0:53] <elfgoh> ic
[0:53] <triplez> yeah... in the beginning half quite a few people went around and showed some of the cool features of windows 7
[0:54] <hyperair> my my, thailand has pretty fat pipes.
[0:54] <gb|work> hi there, i'm trying to build phonegap, and getting an error, can someone help please?
[0:54] <triplez> when you came everyone was pretty much hanging around and networking already
[0:54] <hyperair> proxy2.chula.ac.th 9.8 Mbit/s
[0:54] <elfgoh> triplez: you said kandahar is 10 min walk from bugis mrt right? Pardon me for my bad memory
[0:54] <triplez> 10 to 15 minutes
[0:54] <elfgoh> gb|work: dqminh should be able to help you but he is not here
[0:54] <elfgoh> !seen dqminh
[0:54] <triplez> i timed it
[0:54] <hyperair> i wonder where malaysia's pipes went, if thailand and singapore both have such huge pipes
[0:54] <megan_> I last saw dqminh on Fri Oct 23 03:32:37 2009.
[0:55] <gb|work> elfgoh: got it, thx
[0:55] <gb|work> !seen dqming
[0:55] <megan_> Humm, I don't remember that nick.
[0:55] <gb|work> !seen dqminh
[0:55] <megan_> I last saw dqminh on Fri Oct 23 03:32:37 2009.
[0:56] <triplez> anyway elfgoh... thanks for the feedback... you're the best!
[0:57] <elfgoh> triplez: help me see if there are any more factors for location at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aq0iCnT5pJBZdGdLVGl3T2JBSVhkVk5kdzQtRFFYWEE&hl=en please?
[0:58] <triplez> sorry i couldn't contribute a lot to hackerspace in terms of finding locations and such
[0:58] <triplez> *sorry*
[0:58] <elfgoh> triplez: it's ok. Contribute to the other parts
[0:58] <elfgoh> triplez: Well a lot of people at eChelon actually believed that I am a real estate professional
[0:58] <triplez> haha... i am actually getting the word slowly out to the social media guys
[0:59] <elfgoh> Think that could be my second career
[0:59] <triplez> lol
[0:59] <triplez> i know you look like a real estate prof in the videos
[0:59] <triplez> very funny
[1:00] <triplez> wow quite a lot of people are for kandahar
[1:01] <triplez> i think we should go for kandahar then
[1:01] <elfgoh> triplez: well I am actually waiting for hackerspace.sg to be more organised.. eg a blog style, before I go blast out things to the other user groups
[1:02] <triplez> because imo.... kandahar is so not a good place to hold events
[1:02] <elfgoh> triplez: well I think that's not necessary the consensus
[1:02] <triplez> i think it's too small...
[1:02] <triplez> but... whatever
[1:02] <elfgoh> so freeside was wondering if we wanna go for 2 hackerspaces
[1:02] <triplez> i think we should try to get the scape location
[1:03] <elfgoh> so I am creating a spreadsheet to more objectively evaluate the locations
[1:03] <triplez> i've got quite a lot of good response regarding a bigger location at the scape
[1:03] <elfgoh> triplez: well I think we are sitting a little bit on the proposal now with freeside and Ruiwen away
[1:03] <triplez> when i described to them
[1:03] <elfgoh> DO you want to help with that?
[1:04] <triplez> i think it's pretty much good
[1:04] <triplez> lemme go shower first
[1:04] <triplez> brb
[1:04] <triplez> we'll talk later at hackerspacesg channel
[1:05] * elfgoh notes that everyone in the hackerspacesg channel is in #linuxnus
[1:05] <jmarki> =)
[1:05] <elfgoh> WE ARE EVERYWHERE
[1:12] <triplez> hehee
[1:13] <triplez> back
[1:18] <filePeter> Yeah! Hey guys!
[1:18] <elfgoh> hello filePeter you have been mia for a long time
[1:19] <filePeter> “mia” ??? :-) Yes, I’m back in Europe now and had no internetconnection until now. =)
[1:19] <filePeter> You guys r ok?
[1:21] <elfgoh> filePeter: oh yes we are :)
[1:21] <elfgoh> some of us are trying to get a hackerspace up and running
[1:22] <schiv> hmm..interesting
[1:28] <filePeter> elfgoh: A hackerspace?? What is that?
[1:29] <filePeter> yesyes lmgtfy
[1:29] <hyperair> http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=hackerspace
[1:29] <hyperair> =p
[1:30] <filePeter> lol ^_^
[1:31] <gb|work> !seen dqminh
[1:31] <hyperair> my ol lmgtfy script still works, i see =p
[1:31] <megan_> I last saw dqminh on Fri Oct 23 03:32:37 2009.
[1:32] <filePeter> Yeah, like a irssi-command? :-)
[1:37] <hyperair> filePeter: not really, more like irssi substitution
[1:37] <filePeter> a ok. :-)
[1:38] <hyperair> filePeter: it substitutes $ (lmgtfy <string>) with http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=%3Cstring%3E
[1:38] <hyperair> properly encoded =)
[1:38] <hyperair> $ ( should really be $( of course
[1:40] <filePeter> :-)
[1:41] <filePeter> Nice, I’ll set it here, too, l8er. :-p Just for you to know you always have to google. :-p
[1:41] <hyperair> heh yeah
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[2:06] <jmarki> and now, we turn to #hackerspacesg for other interesting chats. =D
[2:06] <hyperair> indeed.
[2:06] <hyperair> interesting chats
[2:06] <hyperair> about malaysian and singaporean roads
[2:06] <jmarki> must rotate!
[2:06] <hyperair> lol
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[4:27] <gb|work> hi there, can someone help. i just started playing with phonegap. i installed xcode, opened phonegap, everything is fine. then i copied .js file + index file, but it doesn't work on real iphone (of course hosted it on public internet)
[4:28] <gb|work> i see the page, but when i try to click on anything, nothing happens
[4:28] <gb|work> do i need anything except for phonegap.js?
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[4:59] <gb|work> hi there, i'm starting to play with phonegap. i created a new web page, copied phonegap.js, but it doesn't work at all neither in the browser nor in the emulator
[4:59] <gb|work> please help
[5:05] <gb|work> anybody there?
[5:21] <hyperair> what is phonegap?
[5:22] <hyperair> and either way, please do not post your question multiple times. if you do not receive a reply, it means: #1: nobody knows the answer, #2: nobody cares enough to reply, or #3: nobody's around. posting again won't help.
[5:22] <hyperair> and given the ungodly hours you've chosen to drop by, chances are that #3 holds true, exception being me, but i'm heading off to bed right now
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[7:22] <strohi> someone arround?
[8:27] <jmarki> yawnz
[8:28] <jmarki> nope.... everyone's sleeping
[8:28] * jmarki wonders why he's awake
[8:28] <jmarki> night, world!
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[8:41] <strohi> hm
[8:41] <strohi> k
[8:41] <strohi> n8
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[10:39] <patrickhaller> freeside: been afk / hacking on ofs for a bit
[10:39] <elfgoh> hello patrickhaller
[10:39] <patrickhaller> the aljunied interior looks great, not sure about the neighborhood
[10:40] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: not as bohemian as Kandahar for sure. But definitely not sleazy at Yu Li side
[10:40] <patrickhaller> sleazy is fine, dangerous is not
[10:42] <elfgoh> patrickhaller: no worries. Most parts of singapore are safe. I don't even know where the dangerous ones are
[10:43] <ziroday> there are dangerous parts of Singapore?
[10:43] <davidchua> hong lim park.
[10:43] <elfgoh> davidchua: what about hong lim?
[10:43] <davidchua> anytime can kena arrested for no reason
[10:43] <davidchua> ;)
[10:44] <ziroday> hehe
[10:44] <ziroday> Speakers Corner!
[10:47] <elfgoh> freeside: well does it seem that people are not familar with aljunied area? Should we organise a little excursion tonight or something?
[10:47] <elfgoh> either not familiar or unsure about aljunied
[10:48] <elfgoh> davidchua: do a pledge at http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Aq0iCnT5pJBZdGdLVGl3T2JBSVhkVk5kdzQtRFFYWEE&hl=en
[11:38] <davidchua> elfgoh: pledged.
[11:42] <elfgoh> davidchua: yay!
[11:42] * elfgoh slobbers davidchua
[11:42] <davidchua> I'd pledge more but I really have to see the location once its up :)
[11:43] <davidchua> but either way I like what you guys are doing :)
[11:43] * davidchua slurps elfgoh
[11:43] <davidchua> I'm wondering
[11:43] <davidchua> would there be a possibility for a meeting room where usergroups can
[11:43] <davidchua> hold their meetings?
[11:44] <davidchua> this would ease up demand for location by usergroups
[11:46] <elfgoh> davidchua: yea that's one of the intentions.
[11:47] <elfgoh> That's one of the reasons why I prefer the units at Yu Li compared to Kandahar
[11:50] <triplez> did i just see that RMS is in singapore?
[11:50] <jarick> triplez: I wonder how he got through airport security
[11:51] <triplez> is that true?
[11:52] <jarick> I dunno
[11:52] <elfgoh> where did that come from triplez ?
[11:52] <triplez> i dunno
[11:52] <triplez> i'm reading twitter
[11:52] <triplez> harish pillay just mentioned it
[11:52] <triplez> an hr ago
[11:52] <triplez> or so
[11:52] <triplez> that they are waiting for RMS to present something
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[12:09] <triplez> OMG
[12:09] <triplez> RMS just said that linux is not a believer in freedom in software
[12:09] <triplez> holy fuck
[12:10] <gb|work> does anybody know why phonegap's demo is not working on iphone?
[12:10] <gb|work> i don't see lat, and long or anything else
[12:10] <triplez> "the name 'linux' was a mistake"
[12:10] <triplez> how big of an ego does RMS have
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[12:25] <gb|work> anybody online?
[12:25] <yq> yea~
[12:29] <triplez> WTF... now i want to slap rms...
[12:30] <triplez> rms is the "father of opensource" ?? ego blown up to the size of the planet...
[12:32] <davidchua> rms isn't the father of opensource
[12:32] <davidchua> he's the father of free software. which led to opensource
[12:33] <gb|work> does anybody know why phonegap's demo is not working on iphone?
[12:33] <davidchua> god i hate that guy
[12:33] <gb|work> i have couple of basic questions. please help. i'm trying to set up very basic web app
[12:33] <triplez> gb|work: i'm not familiar with iphone
[12:34] <triplez> sorry
[12:38] <gb|work> triplez: shouldn't phonegap be cross compatible?
[12:38] <davidchua> oh rms is in m'sia
[12:39] <triplez> oh malaysia... no singapore
[12:39] <triplez> ok
[12:39] <triplez> gb|work: what is phonegap?
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[17:05] <justhalf> test
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[17:26] <elfgoh> justhalf: loud and clear
[17:27] <justhalf> :)
[17:27] <justhalf> is it really loud?
[17:27] <justhalf> I cannot hear anything from here
[17:29] <davidchua> arghhhh the silence!
[17:29] <davidchua> its deafening!
[17:29] <justhalf> wow
[17:29] <justhalf> so paradox
[17:29] <justhalf> I'm happy when I'm sad
[17:29] <davidchua> the cup is half empty when its half full.
[17:29] <jmarki> buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[17:29] <davidchua> BAZINGA!
[17:30] <yq> boomz
[17:31] <justhalf> half empty = half full => empty = full
[17:31] <justhalf> contradiction
[17:31] <justhalf> then our implication was wrong
[17:31] <justhalf> and hence half cannot be removed
[17:31] <justhalf> then half equals to zero
[17:31] <justhalf> 0.5 = 0
[17:31] <justhalf> contradiction
[17:31] <justhalf> hence half empty is not equal to half full
[17:31] <justhalf> Q.E.D
[17:31] <justhalf> :)
[17:32] <davidchua> man, I think I'm having post quarter-life crisis.
[17:32] <davidchua> you know you're getting old when your niece is already almost 2 years old.
[17:32] <davidchua> ;(
[17:32] <davidchua> where have the past two decades gone.
[17:32] <justhalf> to the dimension-4
[17:33] <justhalf> with length 2*years*12 months*30 days*seconds-in-a-day*the-speed-of-light
[17:34] <justhalf> you have niece from your older or younger brother/sister?
[17:43] <davidchua> woot looks like i'd be able to push my code contribution up for the has_messages plugin tonight
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[19:32] <davidchua> cnn.com redesigns
[19:36] <davidchua> and what the hell, temasekreview.com is appearing in my googlenews. I didn't know that blogs can get listed on google news. how did that happen
[19:44] * cyberjames yawns
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[22:56] <davidchua> patrickhaller: ping
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