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[0:01] <davidchua> http://github.com/davidchua/has_messages wooooooot committed.
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[0:10] <hyperair> O_o?
[0:11] <hyperair> interesting
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[0:59] <strohi> hey elfgoh
[0:59] <strohi> all fine?
[0:59] <elfgoh> strohi: well can't sleep now so woke up to play around with some code
[1:00] <strohi> hehe nice
[1:00] <elfgoh> the aftnn nap must have done it
[1:00] <strohi> hehe
[1:00] <elfgoh> feeling quite energetic too despite an evening run
[1:00] <strohi> siting at grandma, listen to "oldies" and so crap -.-
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[1:35] <elfgoh> ruiwen: had fun during your trip?
[1:35] <ruiwen> elfgoh: yup i did, thanks
[1:36] <ruiwen> managed to settle with jmasia elfgoh ?
[1:37] <elfgoh> ruiwen: nope. I didn;t read the part that their ex colleague was going over on Sat
[1:37] <elfgoh> so emailed back only on sat night
[1:37] <elfgoh> let's see what happens tomorrow
[1:39] <ruiwen> ahok.. hope they haven't released the items
[1:39] <elfgoh> Just read an article about bed bugs from old furniture.... we should be careful about that
[1:41] <ruiwen> elfgoh: hm just need to check the red cushions i guess.. probably could just sun them
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[1:51] <randomperson> what's a CTCP VERSION ?
[1:52] <ruiwen> randomperson: gives you the name/version of the client of the person CTCP'd
[1:53] <randomperson> what does this mean then?
[1:53] <randomperson> \freenode-connect [freenode@freenode/bot/connect] requested CTCP VERSION from randomperson:
[1:54] <randomperson> \ruiwen ?
[1:54] <randomperson> People here mugging till late at night i hate it lol
[1:54] <randomperson> HATE IT
[1:55] <ruiwen> randomperson: i guess freenode is attempting to figure out what client you're using to connect to them
[1:57] <sng> randomperson: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect
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[2:20] <elfgoh> davidchua: any idea how much do startups pay for rent in the smu incbuator?
[2:27] <hyperair> that was random indeed.
[2:44] <strohi> hmm
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[2:47] <strohi> maybe it should me more patiance effective to create an free&open msdna clon, instread to pronaunce, that it is a linux elfgoh
[2:48] <elfgoh> strohi: sorry I didn't quite get that. Could you rephrase please :)
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[2:49] <strohi> the main idea ist, to say it is an openfoo network, or only a network, to get "special" efforts, instead of say it is a "linux network" :)
[2:51] <strohi> the experience show, that some people don't like to get in contact with linux
[2:53] <elfgoh> strohi: I see. That is a very ambitious project
[2:54] <strohi> you cant speak german?
[2:54] <elfgoh> strohi: sorry I can't. Only icedwater, Isil`Zha and jamestyj can speak German here IIRC
[2:54] <strohi> ok
[2:54] <strohi> :]
[2:55] <elfgoh> Well i had a related idea
[2:56] <elfgoh> I thought it will be real nice to have an linux appstore that one can use to install software for the various distros
[2:57] <strohi> a multiplattform/distro paketmanager?
[2:58] <strohi> hm
[2:58] <elfgoh> strohi:Maybe. How I think it could work is that the user can just select the software to be installed and the version, and some program will run to install the software via the distros package manager, or from some repo, or download the source and compile it
[2:59] <elfgoh> Maybe it is a package manager in the cloud :p
[2:59] <sng> What's the advantage over just using the package manager for your distro?
[3:00] <strohi> an association to push opensoftware in this area, to increase the local economic power ... the maim goal should be, that lokal companys/students customize/expand opensource for lokal companys, instead to buy MS produkts
[3:01] <strohi> elfgoh, an appstore layer for sourceforge? :P
[3:03] <elfgoh> sng: it provides a friendly UI to install software that may not be available in the distro's current repos.
[3:03] <strohi> some distro packages are .. stable or old ..how you want call it
[3:03] <strohi> elfgoh, only free and open, or commercial software, too?
[3:04] <elfgoh> so the end user just needs to select the software to install, and the system just either compile the source or find binaries or find any related repos
[3:04] <sng> elfgoh: See the obvious problem with that unless you make *everything* statically compiled?
[3:05] <sng> And maybe even then.
[3:05] <elfgoh> strohi: yea i guess so
[3:05] <strohi> :)
[3:05] <strohi> build a metadistro
[3:06] <strohi> the linuxmeta off hell
[3:06] <strohi> to work around the different lib version problem
[3:06] <elfgoh> sng: well I agree there is a problem, not that I have a solution yet
[3:07] <sng> strohi: For that level of complexity you better be handing out free beer and pizza with every app installed.
[3:07] <strohi> elfgoh, opensolaris have .. "layers" or called else ... there you can easily create new "instances" where only the differenz to the hostsystemes are stored
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[3:10] <elfgoh> so random becomes stupid now
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[3:12] <strohi> hm?
[3:19] <elfgoh> stupid and random were the same person :p
[3:19] <elfgoh> or at least the same ip
[3:19] <strohi> nice
[3:20] <strohi> ah k
[3:20] <strohi> have written a concept draft for an businessplan elfgoh :]
[3:20] <elfgoh> strohi: i see. on the msdn idea?
[3:20] <strohi> for a consulting firm
[3:20] <elfgoh> oh ok
[3:20] <strohi> yeap, course! ;)
[3:21] <strohi> the effort should be to increase the economic power of our region *g*
[3:22] <strohi> and the nonofficial
[3:23] <strohi> is to linuxise the society ^^
[3:24] <strohi> one step could be an appstore, where i can provide my "cool" applications
[3:24] <strohi> that one way how you can activite students to write applications for openplattforms
[3:27] <elfgoh> strohi: Good luck have fun
[3:36] <strohi> :)
[3:37] <strohi> in 6 days expires the submisson for an senior coaching competition
[3:38] <strohi> and my main idea is to valuable to take part to those suspicion event ^^
[3:44] <strohi> how do you come around with your code? ^^
[3:52] <elfgoh> strohi: talk to you another tiime
[3:52] <elfgoh> sleeping
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[3:54] <strohi> ok :D
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[3:59] <stupid> hi im stupid
[4:00] <strohi> hi stupid
[4:04] * hyperair facepalms
[4:04] <hyperair> ..wtf?
[4:07] <stupid> I cant believe you nus students are so RUDE
[4:07] <stupid> RUDE people
[4:08] <hyperair> ahem
[4:08] <hyperair> i'm not from NUS.
[4:08] <stupid> then where are you from?
[4:08] <hyperair> NTU.
[4:09] <stupid> i dnt care you're RUDE
[4:09] <hyperair> =.=
[4:09] <hyperair> you're asking for it if you come around introducing yourself as "stupid"
[4:09] <hyperair> imo.
[4:09] <hyperair> and "wtf" is pretty commonplace on irc.
[4:10] <stupid> well why dont you say it in full
[4:10] <hyperair> because it's much longer in full
[4:10] <hyperair> besides, what do you think "wtf" means anyway?
[4:11] <stupid> idk just like idk what idk means
[4:11] * hyperair groans
[4:12] <hyperair> so what does idk stand for? "I = dick" ?
[4:12] <stupid> I dont know. Just like I dont know what "I dont know" means
[4:12] <hyperair> so you do know. =)
[4:13] <hyperair> congratulations. you have just learnt how to contradict yourself
[4:13] <stupid> You are Rude. I dont like rude people. Chow Joong Lin you're going down
[4:13] <hyperair> ...if you're going to say my name, say it right.
[4:14] <stupid> Chow loong Jin
[4:14] <stupid> Hi Loong Jin
[4:14] <hyperair> well hello stupid.
[4:14] <hyperair> i can't find any other name to call you.
[4:14] <hyperair> say, how about webcache2-pgp-ext.network.nus.edu.sg/137.132.250.1?
[4:14] <hyperair> hello webcache2-pgp-ext.network.nus.edu.sg/137.132.250.1.
[4:15] <strohi> oh yea hyperair is awake
[4:15] <hyperair> not for long.
[4:15] <hyperair> my hair's dry and i should be off to sleep
[4:15] <stupid> Go to sleep then. stop attacking us nus people
[4:15] <stupid> I just woke up anyway
[4:16] <hyperair> lol
[4:16] <hyperair> i'm not attacking "NUS people"
[4:16] <hyperair> i'm attacking idiots. =)
[4:16] <strohi> hyperair, is it about 4 o clock?
[4:16] <stupid> Yes you are
[4:16] <hyperair> strohi: yes it is.
[4:16] <stupid> Go to Sleep
[4:16] <strohi> nice
[4:16] <stupid> Go to Sleep
[4:16] <strohi> good night hyperair :D
[4:16] <stupid> Dont bother us
[4:16] <hyperair> night strohi
[4:16] * stupid is now known as Dinosaur
[4:16] <strohi> have fun :)
[4:16] <hyperair> stupid: you're a prick you know that?
[4:17] * Dinosaur is now known as Linux2
[4:17] <strohi> you are going to die out dino?
[4:17] <Linux2> Now try and be rude to me
[4:18] <Linux2> RUDE RUDE RUDE
[4:18] <Linux2> Go to Sleep
[4:19] <hyperair> glad to.
[4:19] <hyperair> it's a pain talking to a prick like you anyway >_>
[4:20] <Linux2> GO TO SLEEP I hope you will never wake up for your lextures/tutorials tomorrow
[4:20] <Linux2> Over sleeping is good
[4:20] <Linux2> Sweet Dreams
[4:20] <Linux2> Lectures*
[4:21] <Linux2> Sweet Dreams
[4:21] <Linux2> Sweet Dreams
[4:22] <Linux2> Sweet dreams
[4:22] <Linux2> zzzzzzzzzzzz
[4:22] <Linux2> Have a nice weekend
[4:22] <Linux2> May you have a nice weekend
[4:22] <Linux2> Sleeping
[4:24] <Linux2> Your hair is now dry. Do enjoy your sleep
[4:24] <Linux2> Sleep sleep sleep
[4:25] <Linux2> You're an idiot for calling me an idiot anyway
[4:26] <Linux2> Your Facebook picture looks so nice,Chow Loong Jin
[4:26] <Linux2> Why hide your face?
[4:26] <Linux2> I hate you
[4:27] <hyperair> oh hell. i've gotten myself a stalker
[4:27] <Linux2> You look horrible
[4:27] <hyperair> i can't see you from here, but i imagine you look pretty horrible too =)
[4:27] <hyperair> and have an equally horrible personality to match
[4:28] <Linux2> May that be reflected back to you l
[4:28] <hyperair> that was a weak comeback =)
[4:28] <hyperair> now i'll be off. have fun trolling others
[4:28] <Linux2> You're the one being RUDE in the first place
[4:28] <Linux2> Get off. you're not even from linuxnus
[4:29] <Linux2> lol :)
[4:29] <Linux2> I hope your computer CRASHES
[4:30] <Linux2> Look I'm still typing
[4:31] <Linux2> keep it up and you dont need to be awake tomorrow
[4:31] <Linux2> Just sleep
[4:31] <Linux2> Sweet dreams
[4:32] <Linux2> My bot will take care of this.
[4:32] * Linux2 is now known as linux2bot
[4:32] <linux2bot> Hi there!
[4:38] <linux2bot> Chow Loong Jin.
[4:38] <linux2bot> NTU Year 2
[4:39] <linux2bot> Covering up his facebook picture pretending to be someone he isnt
[4:40] <linux2bot> Computer GEEK
[4:40] <linux2bot> I hate HIM
[4:41] <linux2bot> Loong Jin look i'm typing here
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[4:51] <linux2bot> Stinking Hyperair just quit. GOOD
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[6:38] <linux2> Chow Loong Jin the IDIOT
[6:38] <linux2> Tell him that
[6:39] <dwu> wtf?
[6:41] <ziroday> ooh whitehouse.gov uses drupal now
[6:42] <linux2> <stupid> i dnt care you're RUDE
[6:42] <dwu> god, our ops are fail.
[6:42] <linux2> You another NTU person?
[6:42] <linux2> Stop trolling
[6:43] <ziroday> work it out?
[6:47] <linux2> What ops?
[6:47] <linux2> Stop trolling around
[7:44] <linux2> 04:09] <hyperair> and "wtf" is pretty commonplace on irc.
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[7:44] <linux2> hi
[7:45] <linux2> are you from nus or ntu or neither both?
[7:45] <concernedcitizen> morning
[7:45] <linux2> morning
[7:45] <concernedcitizen> what's the meaning of this interrogration when I haven't had my coffee yet!
[7:46] <linux2> just say it
[7:46] <linux2> what bus goes from pgp? 151 or 95?
[7:48] <linux2> Youre a troll arent you?
[7:52] <linux2> Trolls deserve to be interrogated
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[8:02] <linux2> hi
[8:02] <linux2> are you from nus or ntu or neither both?
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[9:50] <concernedcitizen> woot.
[9:50] <duress> ?
[9:53] * cyberjames yawns
[9:57] <dwu> yay, fucker's gone.
[9:58] <cyberjames> what happened?
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[10:22] <concernedcitizen> ?
[10:25] <triplez> ahh.... the wonders of politics
[10:25] <triplez> :)
[10:25] <triplez> lalala
[10:26] <concernedcitizen> oo oo! politics sounds sexy
[10:26] <triplez> hahaha.... don't wanna get involved
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[10:56] <concernedcitizen> great. my neck hurts
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[13:54] <ngiin> just a shout.
[13:55] <ngiin> ruiwen, elfgoh: have you guys tried to get the MDA fusionopolis space for hackfest?
[13:55] <elfgoh> no we haven't but from what i heard it is quite inaccessible
[13:56] <ruiwen> ngiin: F11 at fusionopolis?
[13:57] <ngiin> F11
[13:57] <ngiin> yeah
[13:58] <ngiin> the distance from Fusionopolis to Buona Vista is like from Raffles MRT to MS....
[13:58] <ruiwen> no we haven't tried getting that venue
[13:58] <ruiwen> but as elfgoh says, accessibility might be an issue.. it is quite far in right?
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[13:58] <ngiin> better than any spot in NUS i think...
[13:59] <ngiin> but the space is awesome...
[13:59] <elfgoh> ngiin: so are you suggesting that F11 be a hackerspace or just a venue for hackfests
[13:59] <ngiin> grander vision is making F11 a hackerspace too....
[13:59] <ngiin> but it's just a thought...
[13:59] <elfgoh> IIRC according to freeside, one needs to have certain qualifications before one can enter or something
[14:00] <elfgoh> ngiin: but it is certainly worth a try if hackerspace is not up by the next hackfest
[14:00] <ruiwen> ngiin: so i've heard about plans for F11
[14:00] <ruiwen> if they like us there that's nice =)
[14:00] <ngiin> ruiwen: what plans..
[14:01] <ngiin> ruiwen: i went there for the first time last week...
[14:01] <ngiin> ruiwen: thought it will be a cool space...
[14:03] <ruiwen> ngiin: mda's plans.. as in their intention to make it a place for devs to hang out
[14:04] <ngiin> yeah...
[14:04] <ngiin> ruiwen: jump in and take leadership...
[14:04] <ruiwen> we can try for that for next hackfest just to check out the venue i guess
[14:04] <ngiin> ruiwen: they are quite clueless now as to what it is to be done....
[14:05] <ruiwen> ngiin: what? take leadership of mda's space?
[14:05] <ruiwen> ngiin: you have contacts?
[14:05] <ngiin> ruiwen: "thought leadership", since they are not so clear, but you are clear, go and pitch
[14:06] <ngiin> ruiwen: ziyong knows the F11 executive person better ....
[14:06] <ngiin> ruiwen: use Ziyong's route....
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[14:11] <elfgoh> freeside: any comments on ngiin 's suggestion?
[14:11] <jamesty1> moin
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[14:13] <ruiwen> ooh. geocities closes today?
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[14:23] <davidchua> morning jamesty1
[14:24] <davidchua> man, my internets is abit wonky today
[14:25] <jamesty1> davidchua: hey duder
[14:25] * ruiwen waves hi from his new office near Chinatown
[14:25] <jamesty1> davidchua: how's it going
[14:25] * jamesty1 waves back
[14:25] <davidchua> woot!
[14:25] <jamesty1> ruiwen: what office is this?
[14:26] <davidchua> same old same old, just pushed a code commit on github
[14:26] * jamesty1 fondly recalls the days when his office was in that area too
[14:26] <ruiwen> jamesty1: still with tianyao
[14:26] <jamesty1> davidchua: woo you're quite the coder now!
[14:26] <davidchua> http://github.com/davidchua/has_messages
[14:26] <jamesty1> davidchua: yeah i saw your tweet on that
[14:26] <jamesty1> davidchua: is that website you were working on up somewhere already?
[14:26] <jamesty1> that political watch thing
[14:26] <jamesty1> ruiwen: nice
[14:27] <jamesty1> ruiwen: that is a good area for office, lots of food!
[14:27] <davidchua> yeah its up at http://political-watch.org
[14:27] <davidchua> haven't been working on that for a while though
[14:28] <davidchua> ahhh
[14:28] <davidchua> darn it, I don't understand this my interents is getting wonky
[14:29] <davidchua> losing connection soooon
[14:29] <ruiwen> jamesty1: indeed it is =) we just had lunch at the maxwell market
[14:31] <davidchua> how's things at the office jamesty1
[14:33] <jamesty1> ruiwen: woo nice
[14:33] <jamesty1> ruiwen: i miss that place!
[14:34] <jamesty1> ruiwen: not nearly as much food options over here
[14:34] <jamesty1> davidchua will know what i mean ;)
[14:34] <davidchua> haha, missing singapore food already? jamesty1
[14:34] <jamesty1> davidchua: things are pretty good, we just got some additional contractors to help us with implementing new features
[14:34] <jamesty1> davidchua: yeah man! but i will be back soon! we have to meet up!
[14:35] <ngiin> beer!
[14:35] <jamesty1> ngiin: yeah!
[14:35] <jamesty1> channel outing!
[14:35] <jamesty1> haha
[14:36] <davidchua> yeah!!
[14:36] <jamesty1> okay on
[14:36] <jamesty1> does dinner + beer on 11 Nov (wed) work for you guys?
[14:36] <jamesty1> i'm back for a business trip, so things are a bit tight
[14:37] <jamesty1> ruiwen: grab tianyao too, or maybe i can pop by for lunch
[14:37] <cyberjames> yay
[14:37] <kelvinq> oh ruiwen, you got an office in Chinatown? where are you located?
[14:38] <jamesty1> cyberjames: hey come on down too, we've yet to meet in person before
[14:39] <jamesty1> ngiin, elfgoh, cyberjames, davidchua, ruiwen: dinner + beer on 11 Nov (wed)?
[14:39] <jamesty1> and of course everyone else in this channel is welcomed too ;)
[14:39] <triplez> i'm not invited?
[14:39] <triplez> :(
[14:39] <triplez> sigh
[14:39] * triplez leaves
[14:39] <jamesty1> triplez: haha and you too!
[14:39] <davidchua> jamesty1: sounds good! I haven't met the rest yet
[14:39] <triplez> yeah right... i'm just an after thought
[14:39] * triplez cries in one corner
[14:39] <jamesty1> lol
[14:40] <davidchua> except for elfgoh
[14:40] <jamesty1> triplez: was intending to meet up with you n jason separately
[14:40] <triplez> oh ok
[14:40] <triplez> :P
[14:40] <triplez> well i can do both... hee
[14:41] <cyberjames> jamesty1: conflict on my schedule, will check my side to change properly :D
[14:41] <triplez> jason doesn't drink
[14:41] <jamesty1> cyberjames: thanks
[14:41] <jamesty1> triplez: we can bring water/coke/etc ;)
[14:41] <jamesty1> triplez: eh, drink
[14:41] <jamesty1> davidchua: hrm political watch looks like your twitter feed? ;)
[14:41] <triplez> YAY!!!!! hero flashed to UK rom
[14:41] <triplez> i hate the singapore rom
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[14:45] <davidchua> oops
[14:45] <davidchua> garhhhh :( starhub
[14:46] <davidchua> did I miss anything?
[14:48] <jamesty1> (07:41:42 AM) jamestyj: davidchua: hrm political watch looks like your twitter feed? ;)
[14:49] <davidchua> hah!
[14:50] <davidchua> well pol-watch is non-partisan.
[14:50] <davidchua> hehehe
[14:50] <davidchua> anybody can post, openid!
[14:52] <jamesty1> hehe
[14:52] <jamesty1> davidchua: you are seriously into politics ;)
[14:53] <davidchua> no man! just wanna make sure information gets out.
[14:53] <davidchua> sick of censorship :P
[14:53] <davidchua> *self-censorship
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[15:10] <ruiwen> jamesty1: dinner 11 nov is fine =)
[15:10] <ruiwen> kelvinq: i'm near the maxwell market
[15:11] <kelvinq> ruiwen: ohhh.. cool. my office is in Chinatown too but closer to People's Park.
[15:12] <ruiwen> kelvinq: pearl centre was it?
[15:12] <kelvinq> Pearl Hill Terrace.
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[15:15] <elfgoh> well are there any good locations for hackerspace in chinatown?
[15:17] <ruiwen> elfgoh: well those few locations i posted previously
[15:17] <kelvinq> elfgoh: yup, but a little expensive.
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[15:20] <davidchua> http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/in_the_heartlands/263260/china_flag_hung_hdb_flat.html heh.
[15:26] <elfgoh> wah my pri sch on stomp lulz
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[15:26] <elfgoh> http://singaporeseen.stomp.com.sg/stomp/sgseen/in_the_heartlands/263404/primary_school_students_hug_and_kiss_without_a_care.html
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[15:37] <onetom> gutte morgchen
[15:44] <davidchua> ;)
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[16:25] <linux2> Hi everybody!
[16:27] <linux2> Afternoon
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[16:32] <stroh> g'day
[16:34] <linux2> Now let's try something else
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[16:35] * linux2 is now known as stupid
[16:35] <stroh> uafternoon?, morgning.
[16:36] <stupid> You're from denmark. That's why.
[16:36] <stupid> Now I want to see how nasty people.
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[16:38] <stroh> no
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[16:39] <stroh> i was never in my live in denmark
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[16:45] <jamesty2> elfgoh: lol
[16:45] <jamesty2> elfgoh: those links.
[16:46] <elfgoh> stupid: de != denmark
[16:46] <elfgoh> iirc
[16:46] <jamesty2> de = germany
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[16:48] <yq> elfgoh:
[16:48] * elfgoh stabs yq with a needle
[16:49] <elfgoh> DIE yq
[16:49] <yq> . .
[16:49] <yq> saturday
[16:49] <yq> moving?
[16:49] <yq> furnitures
[16:50] <elfgoh> yq: ya that is the intention
[16:50] <elfgoh> yq: actually jason offered his office
[16:50] <yq> I can get my couz/lorry down
[16:50] <yq> but have ta do it early/quick
[16:50] <yq> ORH
[16:50] <yq> okay
[16:50] <yq> hrmmm still need lorry?
[16:50] <yq> where is jason's office?
[16:51] <elfgoh> yq: Hmmm not sure... cos jason's wife got a van... dunno big enough or not
[16:51] <elfgoh> yq: at kallang
[16:51] <yq> orh ok then
[16:51] <yq> ok. just let me know if lorry is still neede
[16:51] <yq> d
[16:51] <elfgoh> so if we need the lorry then what time?
[16:51] <elfgoh> 10am - 12 nn window can?
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[16:52] <yq> earlier
[16:52] <yq> as in..
[16:52] <yq> have to load the stuff up at like 1045
[16:52] <yq> or 11
[16:57] <triplez> my htc hero is super fast now... weeeeee
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[16:58] <stupid> weeeeeee
[16:58] <stupid> hyperair is a troll
[16:59] <stupid> ntu geek
[16:59] <stupid> quit hahaha
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[17:01] <stupid> Geek
[17:04] <elfgoh> troll... oh a troll for hallloween
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[17:13] <elfgoh> Question: For a query that only returns one row, does using "LIMIT 1" optimise the query?
[17:15] <elfgoh> hmm found this answer at http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4405876
[17:15] <elfgoh> LIMIT 1 is ~not~ required if your WHERE clause guarantees only one row best practice would be to leave it out. LIMIT is mysql syntax, and will not work if you ever have to port your code to a different database
[17:19] <stupid> Hyperair is that plain RUDE Ntu guy who is trolling around the linuxnus channel targeting newbies
[17:26] <stupid> Idiot
[17:27] <elfgoh> stupid: show the logs. I haven't seen that rudeness anywhere. And I think most of us welcome him here
[17:30] <davidc_> who's stupid
[17:31] <jamestyj> elfgoh: no LIMIT will not optimize the query. adding a relevant index would.
[17:32] <stupid> \away Who's stupid? You are.
[17:33] <davidc_> ah ha! he must be that troll from this morning linux2
[17:33] <davidc_> y helo thar, got your bananas yet?
[17:35] <ziroday> anyone seen californication?
[17:39] * hyperair groans
[17:39] <hyperair> oh no not again.
[17:39] <elfgoh> hyperair: stupid I think it was a misunderstanding
[17:40] <elfgoh> hyperair: I clarified certain points about "wtf" with stupid. If you 2 still can't stand each other kindly do a /ignore
[17:41] <hyperair> elfgoh: i don't really give a damn if he'd stop complaining about me and highlighting me while doing it =.=
[17:41] <hyperair> it just begs me to retaliate.
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[17:42] <stupid> [04:16] <hyperair> i'm not attacking "NUS people" [04:16] <hyperair> i'm attacking idiots. =)
[17:42] <stupid> Now how do you explain that?
[17:42] <hyperair> stupid is synonymous to idiot
[17:43] <hyperair> wouldn't you agree?
[17:43] <hyperair> well almost anyway
[17:43] <elfgoh> stupid: please, changing your nick will help
[17:44] * stupid is now known as linux2
[17:44] <elfgoh> stupid: not everyone can take you seriously when you have a nick like that
[17:44] <linux2> ok
[17:44] <linux2> 04:27] <hyperair> i can't see you from here, but i imagine you look pretty horrible too =)
[17:44] <hyperair> linux2: thanks for quoting me out of context. do you want me to quote everything you said before?
[17:45] * cyberjames lurks
[17:46] <hyperair> http://pastebin.com/f68c48a90 <-- for the uninformed =)
[17:46] * elfgoh plugs http://opensource.nus.edu.sg/irc/logs/index.php?date=2009-10-26
[17:46] <hyperair> hahah
[17:47] <elfgoh> linux2: http://www.google.com.sg/search?q=irc+logs+%23debian+wtf&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[17:48] <elfgoh> not that I am singling out debian :p
[17:48] <elfgoh> can try searching with "idiot" too
[17:49] <hyperair> oh yeah, i forgot there's a program called wtf ;-)
[17:49] <hyperair> The wtf utility displays the expansion of the acronyms specified on the command line. If the acronym is unknown, wtf will check to see if the acronym
[17:51] <elfgoh> linux2: The rest of us don't use wtf that often, but we do use it sometimes fyi
[17:52] <elfgoh> and it is usually used to indicate surprise and disbelief
[17:52] * ruiwen read the logs
[17:52] <ruiwen> how about an intro linux2? from nus?
[17:56] <triplez> ruiwen: modaco custom rom
[17:57] <ruiwen> triplez: ah okie =)
[17:57] <triplez> you?
[17:58] <ruiwen> triplez: ditto
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[17:58] <ruiwen> triplez: the latest one before he stopped producing ROMs
[17:58] <triplez> he continued
[17:58] <triplez> it's now 2.8
[17:59] <triplez> with a swap partition + apps ext3 partition...
[17:59] <triplez> it's so much faster
[17:59] <triplez> i can't believe the speed improvement
[17:59] <ruiwen> triplez: ooh okie
[17:59] <ruiwen> triplez: does the swap make lots of difference? i've been holding off using swap and app2sd
[18:00] <triplez> yes
[18:00] <triplez> a lot
[18:00] <triplez> there's almost no lag now
[18:00] <ruiwen> nice
[18:00] <triplez> as you install more apps the original hero rom will lag like mad
[18:00] <ruiwen> shall consider that
[18:00] <ruiwen> am expecting better optimisations now that the hero kernel has been updated
[18:01] <ruiwen> released, i mean
[18:01] <triplez> yeah... go check out swapper app too
[18:01] <triplez> yeah.... ext3 was included to the kernel
[18:01] <triplez> droidwall too
[18:01] <triplez> wait
[18:01] <triplez> not ext3... ext4 was included
[18:01] <ruiwen> icic
[18:02] <yq> triplez: gonna review that rom?
[18:02] <yq> sounds damn exciting
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[18:02] <triplez> haha... review? nothing much to review
[18:02] <triplez> it's only lots of speed optimizations
[18:02] <yq> technical benchmark then
[18:02] <triplez> also added compcache... which i don't quite know
[18:03] <triplez> paul is planning to add BFS... that'll speed things up even more
[18:04] <triplez> and finally... custom rom = wifi tethering
[18:04] <triplez> although the wifi tethering has some stuff that doesn't quite work properly... like shutting down!
[18:04] <triplez> and WEP doesn't seem to work
[18:04] <triplez> :(
[18:05] <yq> triplez: i see... btw.. whats your monthly usage like? for mobile wifi
[18:05] <triplez> err... last month was about 2gigs+
[18:05] <triplez> i'm planning to try to hit 10 gigs... now that i've got tethering working
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[18:08] <icedwater> Mobile wifi is free, isn't it?
[18:08] <triplez> i assume yq is talking about tethering
[18:08] <yq> mobile wifi is free?
[18:09] <yq> then why are they selling mobile data plans
[18:10] * davidc_ wonders if there's a way to hide all join/leave/part messages from appearing in his webchat
[18:11] <ziroday> davidc_: #freenode-webchat would know :)
[18:14] <icedwater> yq: I'm assuming using Wifi on a phone is free .. the data plans should apply only to traffic over 3G/etc right?
[18:14] <yq> icedwater: oh yeah i notice what caused the confusion...
[18:14] <yq> =P
[18:14] <icedwater> Since after all the traffic isn't metered by the phone but by the provider ... and packets *should* only be exchanged between router and phone yeah :P
[18:14] <yq> icedwater: hows things over there anyway
[18:14] <yq> yeap yeap
[18:15] <icedwater> All right, going for lunch and class soon
[18:15] <icedwater> 8 straight hours today, whee.
[18:15] <icedwater> Yesterday was a nice day in Hamburg, a few Singaporean students gathered for the weekend there... we were about 16 or so.
[18:15] <icedwater> And it was sunny.
[18:16] <icedwater> Maybe still less than 10 degrees, but sunny.
[18:16] <icedwater> ^_^
[18:16] <yq> i see
[18:17] <yq> the 16 were all from the same campus?
[18:17] * elfgoh imagined that icedwater travelled back in time to be 16 years old
[18:18] <triplez> lol
[18:19] <davidc_> I wish I was 16 again
[18:20] <elfgoh> (06:15:36 AM) icedwater: Yesterday was a nice day in Hamburg, a few Singaporean students gathered for the weekend there... we were about 16 or so.
[18:20] <yq> haha...
[18:20] * yq jabs elfgoh with srynge
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[18:24] <icedwater> yq: Nope, Heidelberg, Mannheim, Saarbrücken�Berlin, Münster, Osnabrück, München
[18:25] <yq> ok wierd characters on my screen now..
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[18:25] <icedwater> ostly in the southern half but pretty much all over
[18:25] <icedwater> Mostly*
[18:25] * elfgoh looks south
[18:25] <icedwater> Yeah, the weird characters are the ue or u with dots on top :P
[18:27] <icedwater> elfgoh: Have you been infected by trollitis?
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[18:29] <elfgoh> !twitter Wordpress hardening release. Update now! http://wordpress.org/development/2009/10/wordpress-2-8-5-hardening-release/
[18:30] <elfgoh> So here's a post on trackback DOS if anyone is keen http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http://rooibo.wordpress.com/&sl=es&tl=en&history_state0=
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[18:46] <davidc_> mm just realized has_messages doesn't have a easy way to send reply messages... maybe I should write that functionality hmmmm
[18:49] <icedwater> Go go :)
[18:49] * icedwater goes for lunch, then lectures.
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[19:52] <inimical> really...it's so hard to get anything done without a laptop
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[20:34] <davidc_> http://github.com/davidchua/has_messages - added reply functionality! woot
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[22:21] <icedwater> Yay. I notice the bulk of github repos are in Ruby...
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[22:52] <linux2> Monday, 26 October 2009 [9:57] <dwu> yay, fucker's gone.s gone.
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[22:56] <linux2_> I wonder if you can block these profanities on the irc
[22:56] <hyperair> get a good enough irc client and yes you can
[22:56] <hyperair> with irssi there's a script called "trigger.pl"
[22:56] <hyperair> it can be configured to replace profannities with anything in particular
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[22:57] <linux2_> It's a good thing you're not that rude
[22:58] <hyperair> i just speak in my own way, that's all
[22:58] <linux2_> Yes yes I just realized that. It's your own unique style
[23:00] <hyperair> =)
[23:01] <linux2_> But those profanities really need to go
[23:02] * hyperair thinks they're fine as long as they stay within a certain limit
[23:03] <davidc_> ducks.
[23:03] <linux2_> but that is certainly over the limit
[23:03] <hyperair> dunno. everyone's used to different levels of profanity i guess
[23:04] <hyperair> but the thing is not all channels are meant for all age groups.
[23:04] <hyperair> and so the whole no-profanity-in-speech rule is kinda lax in these kinds of channels.
[23:05] <hyperair> the general rule is -- if you don't like it, block it somehow without affecting others. =p
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[23:12] <icedwater> Nice to see linux2_ behaving sensibly, assuming it's the same linux2_ as before :)
[23:14] <icedwater> How's things out there in SG?
[23:14] <icedwater> Anyone meeting for supper lately?
[23:15] <hyperair> i'm holed up in my room as usual. anyone feel like coming to jurong? =p
[23:18] <davidc_> serangoon reprezentin'
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[23:23] <icedwater> Osnabrück representing.
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[23:24] <davidc_> http://update.gemcutter.org/2009/10/26/transition.html oooh, gemcutter replaces rubyforge as gem hosting
[23:32] <jamestyj> davidc_: oo nice
[23:32] <davidc_> http://journal.markbao.com/2009/10/startup-school-2009-summary/ weut!
[23:33] <jamestyj> icedwater: yeah it's very rubyish
[23:33] <linux2_> So who here is actually not from nus?
[23:34] <inimical> hyperair: tempting offer. Maybe I should lug my store of anime over and we can marathon some series
[23:38] <linux2_> how bout naruto?
[23:38] <linux2_> show me a good clip from youtube
[23:41] <davidc_> man, markbao makes me feel old :(
[23:41] <davidc_> http://markbao.com/
[23:41] <davidc_> all while still in high-school
[23:42] <hyperair> inimical: heh go ahead. =p
[23:43] <hyperair> i'll let you see my stash of lq flvs
[23:44] <davidc_> another warrant officer dies while running
[23:44] <elfgoh> davidc_: link?
[23:44] <hyperair> while running? O_o
[23:44] <hyperair> that must have been some heavy duty run
[23:44] <davidc_> http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking+News/Singapore/Story/STIStory_446838.html
[23:46] <inimical> hyperair: lq flvs? blasphemy!
[23:46] <inimical> h264 encoding ftw.
[23:46] <inimical> although for anime it probably doesn't make *too* much of a difference...
[23:46] <hyperair> inimical: it does actually. =\
[23:47] <hyperair> i sometimes notice details i didn't notice before
[23:47] <hyperair> when watching the hq versions
[23:47] <inimical> where'd you get lq flvs from anyway
[23:47] <inimical> *tube?
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[23:55] <icedwater> keepvid.com is one option... :)
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